Actually, the link is supposed to be this: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Enterprise/Firefox/ExtendedSupport:Proposal With a colon before the P, and the P has to be capital. Hint: Select "Disable smileys for this message" before posting.
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So the original thing I was going to post about: Mozilla has finished with their VS2010 compiler conversion, and Firefox 13 (to be released tomorrow?) only supports XP Service Pack 2 or later.
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I was going to post about something else, but I just saw the previous post so I might as well add: Google Chrome nightly 21.0.1162.0, 442 points and 13 bonus points out of a total of 500 points.
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I think haven't heard about it *is* the unpopularity. And even most geeks I asked don't know that there is a KMeleon browser. Granted, I think all of those geeks do now after I asked them :P
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Just FYI, the complaints against slow Firefox XUL are still valid now. Even with the current faster Gecko, Mozilla themselves still recognize that the FF XUL interface is not fast nor responsive enough and still needs much improvement. That's what the currently in progress Mozilla Snappy project is all about: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/Snappy
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rodocop's first description does not require IE browser. You can get there from Control Panel > Internet Options from any WinXP computer.
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As Mozilla Corp. is really no longer as committed to open source as it was in the past, they have made it harder for 3rd party offshoots to survive. Embed, for all its problems, was a good thing for Mozilla Org's open source reputation Mozilla's commitment to developing open-source software has nothing to do with making third party offshoots harder to survive. Open-source development just
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Yes, I am poignantly aware that KM is currently not supported by any active C++ coder. That's why I must concur with the comments floating around this forum that KM is basically a dead project, or on critical life-support. @guenter, are you sure KM 1.6 can be finished without changing C code? Isn't that what desga2 is working on in the Beta version thread? Isn't C/C++ coding required to fix
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But KM hadn't mastered even GRE 2.0 so it has 'improvement space' at least up to Gecko 8-9 without losing compatibility :-) More thoughts I'll keep to myself as I'm not a programmer... Because KM should really "improve" for GRE 2.0, an outdated and slow rendering engine???? Is that something actually desired? Will it even be practical? My other post was responding to the previou
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Thanks for the replies rodocop and Fred. I have already previously read the link rodocop referenced. The only system I see mentioned there is Windows XP SP2 on a Compaq, ie. a non-official system that is running past EOL (ie. End of Life), which for XPSP2 is July 13, 2010. The other systems mentioned by Fred are Linux Hardy (ie. v.8 series). Wow, I did not know official support for Desktop
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Firefox 3.6 is still fully supported, and may be supported longer than many think, because Firefox 7 and higher are problematic in various older systems, which are still supported and used by many. Fred I would just like to ask which are these various older systems which Firefox 7 and higher are problematic with?
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Just to reply to JamesD and JohnHell, yes KMeleon is open source GNU General Public License, but the emphasis is on GNU General Public License, not the open source part. http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmeleon/develop It is because of the GPL that proprietary derivatives cannot be made, because (as you all have mentioned) the GPL requires derivative works must also be licensed open under the G
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The Oracle/Java testing website is the best. After all, they are the ones that actually produce Java. The testing website is: http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
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What I do not like about ; [*] Slow devoloping process, not clear how fast they are updating their browser when security risc is found I do not like that more for KMeleon.
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And also, the V8 benchmark link in your original post is out-of-date. It points to the ver.5 V8 test, but the current one is the ver.6 test. This link should be used for the V8 benchmark, which will always point to the current test version: http://v8.googlecode.com/svn/data/benchmarks/current/run.html
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K-Meleon can only catch up to Fx4 if it upgrades to the newest Gecko that Fx4 is using, which is Gecko 2.0. If I am correct, upcoming KM 1.6 uses Gecko 1.9.1 and upcoming KM 1.7 uses Gecko 1.9.2, which will not be anywhere close to the performance of Fx4 with the interface and garbage collector improvements, not to mention the JaegerMonkey Javascript engine. It will take a subsequent version
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Proposed Mozilla rapid release (Nightly/Aurora/Beta/Final) development schedule: http://mozilla.github.com/process-releases/draft/development_specifics/
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Wow! I would really look forward to a KM based on Chromium!
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Yes, guenter, from all the stats I have seen, I agree that unidentified Win32 internet users is probably about 0.26%. For me, what matters is there is still no reply from ndebord. He posted some useless reply about making nice, but totally disregarding any important explanation about his either joking or seriously deluded or purposefully incorrect assertion that the most used Windows OS outsid
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Actually, the crux is: no number of specialized user-agent spoofers, no matter if they change the user-agent or not or remember to reset the user-agent back or not, is even remotely close enough to making any significant difference for the OS usage statistics. @guenter, are you also so seriously deluded to actually think that there are enough Win 9x user-agent spoofers to actually make a stat
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As for W98x, ndebord's opinion of its usage is clearly unreliable..... Or rather, ndebord said "As for W98x, the stats are clearly unreliable". I'm sorry, but it certainly is not clear to me why. ndebord, could you please elaborate why the stats seem so clearly unreliable to you?
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...worked with W98se. I know, I know, the market share is down a lot, but it is probably the most used OS outside of XP in Windows You are obviously joking, or are seriously deluded, or are purposefully trying to propagate outright incorrect info. The most used Windows OS outside of XP is either Windows 7 or Vista. Probably Windows 7 now as its numbers seriously picked up in the last couple
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But KM is outdated in the most important part! It's still using Gecko 1.8! None of the other UI discussion or memory or size matters. KM is definitely out of date. When will KM-1.6 final be ready for public release? Then KM can be discussed with current tech browsers again.
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Every person who owns a computer with Microsoft Windows is to be offered their choice of internet browsers in an automatic pop-up menu following an agreement today between the software company and the European Union. In March next year all PCs will be sent a software update that will cause a window to appear on screen offering them options to the pre-installed Microsoft Explorer. Under the t
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This is an interesting topic, especially considering the original subject "how secure is KMeleon now that Firefox is less safe?" You can say Firefox is or is not "now" less safe, but that is mainly based on a recent report of number of vulnerabilities, and that in the current Firefox 3.x/3.5.x series. That in itself has no direct bearing on KMeleon. But KMeleon's securit
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Actually, WebKit's Javascript engine is called Nitro (formerly SquirrelFish Extreme), and it is definitely a different thing from V8. V8 is the Javascript engine developed by Google and used in Google Chrome. Nitro and V8 are currently pretty neck-and-neck for the fastest Javascript engine, but the newest V8 builds seem to be slightly faster, especially on XP platform. But guenter is right
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Thanks, ndebord! Your points are well taken. Granted, my points could be raised for just moving KM to Gecko 1.9.0 that does not use SQLite, but I agree that any changes to KM should be done in their good time. And also to note, there are at least three other Gecko 3.x-non-XUL-based browsers which are using the latest Gecko and update in a timely manner: Orca and Lunascape which are using Geck
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I shall contact Dorian, desga2 and guenter about the schedule for Gecko 1.9.1x based K-Meleon. I also wonder why KMCCF ME 0.096 hasn't been made into the official Gecko 1.9.1 KM? But that of course is the difference: will there be an official Gecko 1.9.1 KM or not? The KMCCF one specifically says not official, and that is all the difference. As well, willingness to wait a year or two for an
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So presumably these new, severe JS bugs are already in/have been entered into Mozilla's bugtracker? ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ ) Yogi, did you just read about these JS bugs from Mozilla bugs, or is there a list of these bugs somewhere else? And in case if not, will these new, severe JS bugs be entered into Mozilla bugs? In fact, I am very impatient for an official alpha/beta of KM ba
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When we say Gecko 1.9.1, we mean the layout engine developed by the Mozilla Project, which is used in Firefox and all other "Gecko-based" browsers, including K-Meleon (and no, that's not XULRunner). See also: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko_(layout_engine) You can get Gecko 1.9.1 by downloading the source for Firefox, for example: ftp://ft
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