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installation made kmeleon default browser
Posted by:
john russell
Date: February 27, 2003 10:51AM
The height of arrogance is to automatically make a browser
the default .... there should ALWAYS be a dialog asking
the user if they want the new browser to be the default !!!!
KMELEON did not do this and now i will have to jump thru hoops
as it also doesnt interface well with Pegasus ... trying to access
web from email is impossible .... if i had been allowed to decide
about making this browser the default there would nort be any
problem .... someone in your org has been thru the microsoft
course in how to abuse customers ... find him .... make him
live with microsoft progs for a week .... that will cure him.
Re: installation made kmeleon default browser
Posted by:
rmn
Date: February 27, 2003 11:39AM
Run the setup file once again and read closely. It's in the "Choose Components" dialog, the second screen (just after you read the GPL and press "I Agree"). There's an "Associate HTML with K-Meleon" (which is equivalent to "Make K-Meleon the default browser", FYI) checkbox. Am I not specific enough?
Someone may answer to your second paragraph as I don't use Pegasus.
Re: installation made kmeleon default browser
Posted by:
M4ster
Date: February 28, 2003 10:54PM
John,
I can sympathise with your distress at finding that the file associations had changed.
That happened to me back when I was checking out 0.5. Way back then I was using hotmail lots and kmeleon would not login to that nor my online bank. So I undid the default settings stuck with IE. I checked out 0.6 but was sure to not let it change the file associations.
When 0.7 came out it was a real eye opener for me. The layers (a.k.a tabs) is now a killer feature for me. I now always open links in a background layers as I surf. When I found out that my online bank site worked and so did hotmail I was hooked. The privacy features like stopping pop-ups really add value also. If you are a proper “my machine configured my way” person then kmeleon has lots of good stuff like macros and complete configurability.
After a couple days 0.7 I was using kmeleon all the time. So I re-ran the installer just associated with html kmeleon. I have been an evangelist ever since to all my colleagues and friends.
Then I gave compiling kmeleon a go. I was a C++ programmer as a postgrad. I put up a post on my experiences getting kmeleon to compile and got 43 responses on that thread!
So what I am trying to say is that I really hope that you do not hold the accident about overlooking the small print on the installer against kmeleon. There is a whole lot of good going on over here.
Please add a feature request to the features forum asking for a confirmation pop-up during the installation if the "Associate HTML with K-Meleon" is checked to stop future people checking it out getting “ambushed”. I will add my backing as I was bitten back in 0.5 and I know that not everyone is going to become smitten like me. I am not saying that this feature will get added but at least here we are in the land of opensource and everyone is trying to help out each other.
:-)
Just as an aside: I you are using an NT based version of windows (NT,2000,XP) then I recommend that you always make a system state backup before installing anything. On win2k this is under Start > Program Files > Accessories > System Tools > Backup. That way you can undo any ambushes. Many time I have recovered my machine from a near disaster with that tool. With WinXP it is rolled up as the "system restore point" feature. Use it often for trouble free computing. At work I put the windows server I build into safe mode when they are freshly rebuilt do a full C drive backup with the a system state backup. A restore in safe mode (so that no services are running) then gets the box back if anything nasty happens.
Re: installation made kmeleon default browser
Posted by:
M4ster
Date: February 28, 2003 11:03PM
oh yes. I forgot to help you with your problem! Doh! It is late her in London and I am tired (and rambling!).
if you open up explorer and go to Tools > Folder Options... > File Types you will find the area that lets you set what program is associated with which file type. Scroll down to htm and html. You can then reassociate html with IE if you so choose.
This should sort out Pegasus as it is simply letting windows choose the right program for html through the file associations feature that.
Please let us know how you get along.
good night (or good morning!)
:-)
Re: installation made kmeleon default browser
Posted by:
M4ster
Date: February 28, 2003 11:04PM
and i mean file explorer not internet explorer!
definately time for me to get some sleep!
:-)
Re: installation made kmeleon default browser
Posted by:
M4ster
Date: March 01, 2003 09:37AM
If changing the file associations through the area on File Explorer does not work then you could try upgrading your version of IE through the windows update feature on your start menu. In general the setup program of an IE upgrade will throw up a dialogue stateing that IE is not your default browser and asking whether you want to make your default browser if the instller finds that htm and html are not associated with IE. If you click yes it will reset your file associations. Using this approach will have the added advantage of increasing your security by getting the latest IE code.
A dialogue such as "Are you sure that you wish to make k-meleon your default browser? Yes No" would be my suggestion of what to put in as the new feature that I suggested above about the "Associate html with Meleon" option on the installer. People will give that due consideration.
The old timers that remember the browser wars when their Netscape4 and IE4 would slug it out with dialogues trying to become the default browser would always read the small print on a browser install about file associations. If the Brave New Hope of the browser world does not wish to frighten off people that are just checking it out then we should play nice and give then a clear warning about the "default browser" behaviour that is associated with associating html with k-meleon.
:-)
Re: installation made kmeleon default browser
Posted by:
Andrew
Date: March 01, 2003 03:46PM
M4ster,
I'll recommend that we make it a separate screen in the installation. We're not going to have dialogs to confirm dialogs.