Ok, the topic has been created. Any takers here that could implement a step by step explicit "very understandable" intructional how to? And all the in case this happens: do this, this, this, and that. This way we all will become more knowledge-able about K-Meleon browsers. Alright now how about it?

J.C.A.N

You'll probably find that most people who attempt building their own K-Meleons follow the instructions found here:

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?id=BuildTools

Well for starters a little while ago Microsoft sent me a series of CD's called Visual Basic.net 2003. Can I use this instead of Visual C++ 6 with service pack 3 or higher.I have all the CD's sitting in front of me ready to install?

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, but the program you have is for Visual Basic (V programming, not C++. Two different languages there.

this might be a little off topic but...

does anyone who a GOOD C++ programming tutorial that is simple enough for total newbies and lists all thats needed?

http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial.html

I can't say if it's authoritative enough, but it does start off with the basics and takes it from there. Most of the other tutorials I've found seem to be along the same lines so it will at least set you on the right track.

J.C.A.N the download for free VCToolkitSetup.exe is about 32 mb.
there is also some info several weeks back in forum development i think.
there is also info about MS build tools on Mozilla.org since they are tier one build tools for win32 platform (possibly also usefull info via embed project..
there might be also info and links at gemal dk. and wia
regards

Here's another. I've had it bookmarked for months but still haven't bothered to read it :-)

http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/tutorial1.asp

I have Visual Studio .Net 2003 and the libraries, almost 3gig's of information.

And here is a copy from the Visual C toolkit site one of the questions asked:

Link to the site where the question is being asked

I have Visual Studio or Visual C++. Do I need the Visual C++ Toolkit?
The Visual C++ Toolkit will work fine alongside installed versions of Visual Studio and Visual C++. If you already use Visual Studio .NET 2003, you do not need the Visual C++ Toolkit, unless you want to see the included samples. Everything else included in the Toolkit is included with Visual Studio .NET 2003.

See what I'm referring to here, now I don't know if I have what is needed or now I have a program that is taking up 3gig's of space. The above exert plainly says if you already have Visual Studio .Net 2003, you don't need the Visual C++ Toolkit. So now which is it??? Download the Visual C++ Toolkit or what I have the Visual Studio .Net 2003 will do it?? Plus I am downloading all the necessary tools like "wintools.zip" for netscape and all the other ones listed here: This document explains how to build K-Meleon from the source codeSee fella's this is exactly what I'm talking about here, being EXPLICIT!!!!!!!


J.C.A.N

afaik the mentioned toolkit is a command-line utility only (even if some IDEs should be floating arround for it on the web meanwhile) so you better ship with your Visual Studio .net

Well thats what I'm talking about if I need those then I will downoad them, but as the site says it isn't necessary to download them so all I need is come confirmation whether the site is correct or Al is. This is my first crack at building K-Meleon so naturally I want to make sure that I have what is required before going on. Jesus, I already have downloaded around 4gigs of files including cygwin and activepearl, and the wintools from netscape, so I am setting everything up first before I try my hand at building Mozilla then K-Meleon.

Also I am having a time of it trying to download off of the Mozilla ftp site, can't seem to get anything off of a ftp site, and don't have a fix for it. There are a few of those files that are necessary for building Mozilla any suggestions?



J.C.A.N

J.C.A.N.,

The command line utility is for those who don't have access to a full-blown version of C++. I understand wanting explicit instructions - I went through the same process a while back when I was dabbling in the code. But I'll be honest - it's not going to do you much good to be able to build K-Meleon if you don't know how to code in C++. Even minor changes in code can blow up your project and if you don't know how to reconcile the changes in the Mozilla code with the K-Meleon code, you're going to spend a lot of time spinning your wheels. I don't say this to discourage you - you should keep trying if your interested. But it's critical to learn some of the basics and not-so-basic steps of how to code in C++.

J.C.A.N.,

if you don't know any programming language, building K-M doesn't make much sense. Try to learn C, C++ or Java beforehand and if you know how things are going you can start building (and fixing and modifying) K-M. Building K-M will be heck of a lot easier if you already know the (required) basics, too. BTW: If you want to, you can have a look in the dev forum (why are you posting in "General", anyway?), there's a thread with a bit more detailed instructions (or better: links to them with some surrounding text) from me.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/register.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=272be09d-40bb-49fd-9cb0-4bfa122fa91b