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hey
pages containing embedded avi video display "Click here to get the plugin" instead of Windows Media Player.
i installed the KM WMP NT extension but that did not help.
any suggestions?
thanks
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/17/2009 02:41PM by johnywhy.
Also you need ActiveX plugin for Mozilla or here; WMP Activex
K-Meleon in Spanish
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/17/2009 04:48PM by desga2.
thanks, i did it. still not working for this file:
http://blip.tv/file/2732633?filename=Scvdotnet-2FramesBoostPerfSoundHiPri2k4k461.avi
Not working in IE nor K-Meleon. Calls plugin but only shows "contacting... "
Verbindung wird hergestellt. Since I use a German system
Go here to check whether Media player is loaded at all: http://home.htp-tel.de/sterntaler/test.html#plugins
Also look in menu: Help -> About : Plugins
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 07:29AM by guenter.
here's the info in Help>About Plugins:
Windows Presentation Foundation
File name: NPWPF.dll
Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) plug-in for Mozilla browsers
MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/x-ms-xbap XAML Browser Application xbap Yes
application/xaml+xml XAML Document xaml Yes
WMP does not load in http://home.htp-tel.de/sterntaler/test.html#plugins
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 09:53AM by johnywhy.
No idea if this plays a role here, but in general avis are tricky. They can contain all sorts of internal codecs, and if one is missing on a computer, WMP won't play it, even stand-alone. If the avi could be downloaded it would be interesting to test this. If it doesn't play in IE either, that might be a hint...
Wondering, does the WMP-plugin play all the codecs that WMP-standalone knows, or must each codec be somehow included in the plugin?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 09:34AM by siria.
this plays for me in ie and locally-
http://blip.tv/file/2732633?filename=Scvdotnet-2FramesBoostPerfSoundHiPri2k4k461.avi
but not in km
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 09:55AM by johnywhy.
Oh pity, so plugins seem to need every codec themselves, urgh..
According to GSPOT it's an xvid-mp4 avi.
I've read that those plugins are universal, not browser-related, so wondering, would it work in FFox?? On my old system not, and when I click on "get plugin", FF tries then gives up: Plugin not found. But that need not mean much, I'm on win98 and have very little clue about FF myself ;-P Point of this being, it's probably easier to find a working plugin searching it for FF (if it exists) than for (hardly known) KM, but the FF-one should then be copy-able into KM ;-)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 11:33AM by siria.
Read blip.tv requiriments in FAQ.
Are you tried to change the User Agent string to Firefox?
Tools -> User Agent -> Firefox
K-Meleon in Spanish
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 12:48PM by desga2.
The flv-version plays fine, just not the avi.
After some research now, does anyone have quicktime installed? On my old system it runs only a very outdated version, but in the meantime xvid seems to have been added to quicktime. My old plugin is "npqtplugin.dll", may be the same name for newer versions. Actually it's a whole bunch, the others have numbers at the end. Anyone has a newer one, to put in the KM-plugin-folder and try?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 02:15PM by siria.
There's a slightly complicated workaround for firefox (+KM), but if it helps or not depends on which windowsmedia-player-plugin one has:
http://www.krunk4ever.com/blog/2007/05/14/missing-codecs-in-firefox-to-play-video-in-gallery2/
It's also posted in this several years long thread with more details:
http://gallery.menalto.com/node/35788
To put it short, and if I read that right, it seems that for some odd reason microsoft has forgotten to include in its plugin for other browsers the version "x-msvideo"/avi, that is, the plugin actually can play it, it just suffers a bit from Alzheimer: "Oh, that video is meant for me?? Oops..."
This can be cured with the workaround above.
But some say quicktime-plugins supposedly would also be able to play it? Can't confirm this on my old machine, but looking at the file properties of the newer plugins I found (up to qt7.45), neither of them lists x-msvideo or avi or even xvid...
But am afraid a second complication is the xvid-format, so the "fix" may only work for some avis, not all...
There are two version of the WMP-plugin, just a short info:
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Using+the+Windows+Media+Player+plugin+with+Firefox
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 11:48PM by siria.
I am sure that it does on my system.
Depending on what setup You have installed the test will either play the music in the embed tag. With activeX support installed it will play the standard compliant code. I have the Media Player but no activeX installed in the screenshot.
The later code is used the play music with any IE or Netscape mp3 plugin on the linked applet page "Imaginary Seascape". It contains/shows both the object and the embed legacy code.
<object classid="CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95" width="0" height="0" title="Playing: Gulls MP3 Sound">
<param name="filename" value="./3seemoeve.mp3" />
<param name="volume" value="55" />
<param name="autostart" value="true" />
<param name="loop" value="-1" />
<embed src="./3seemoeve.mp3" type="audio/x-mp3" autostart="true" width="0" height="0" loop="true"></embed>
</object>
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/19/2009 04:07PM by guenter.
Attachments:
MediaPlayer.gif (32.6 KB)
All codecs using the same compression format will basically be able to also handle it.
VideoCodecs
Maybe Video Lan Plugin is easier to configure to alternative browsers than WMP.
http://www.videolan.org/
supported mimetypes:
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/19/2009 06:30PM by guenter.
WHOW - now that's a nice list!! And all those also work in a browser window? Can't find it on their site, blind as usual *sigh*
Would love to try it, except that now that test video has been deleted, argh! :-(
Crazy, I had no idea there are that many plugins in the extensions center!! I may well have come across when checking out the site, but if at that moment my head was too busy with other stuff, I tend to forget it again
Btw, I just downloaded today the new VLC 1.0.2 player. Would suppose the plugin is updated too, since the properties say so and it lists many more file formats as the one from kmext-site, just how in the world can a (zipped) 70kB file play so many video formats? Oh well, that's just too "high" for me, am used to that ;-) Anyway, have attached that plugin-102 if anyone is interested.
Don't forget to scan it for safety, mine isn't quite up-to-date...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/19/2009 08:28PM by siria.
Attachments:
VLC--plugin-from-v102_from-folder-mozilla.zip (70.1 KB)
Thx for info about new version
wmp mozilla plugin isn't supposed to play avi or mpg..only wmp specific formats like wmv, wma , asf etc. to make wmp play all supported formats by wmp in gecko(like in ie), you will need the special km wmp, download from there:
http://kmext.sourceforge.net/mplug.htm
this adds more formats. in case of avi, you might need some codecs to be installed if the avi used unregular (compression) format
if you don't have the required codec installed, then your best bet is the videolan plugin , also on the same page: (vlc multimedia plugin)
http://kmext.sourceforge.net/mplug.htm
All about K-Meleon extensions.
Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
johnywhy
Date: October 17, 2009 02:41PM
hey
pages containing embedded avi video display "Click here to get the plugin" instead of Windows Media Player.
i installed the KM WMP NT extension but that did not help.
any suggestions?
thanks
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/17/2009 02:41PM by johnywhy.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
desga2
Date: October 17, 2009 04:44PM
Also you need ActiveX plugin for Mozilla or here; WMP Activex
K-Meleon in SpanishEdited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/17/2009 04:48PM by desga2.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
johnywhy
Date: October 17, 2009 06:38PM
thanks, i did it. still not working for this file:
http://blip.tv/file/2732633?filename=Scvdotnet-2FramesBoostPerfSoundHiPri2k4k461.avi
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
guenter
Date: October 18, 2009 07:23AM
Quote
johnywhy
thanks, i did it. still not working for this file:
http://blip.tv/file/2732633?filename=Scvdotnet-2FramesBoostPerfSoundHiPri2k4k461.avi
Not working in IE nor K-Meleon. Calls plugin but only shows "contacting... "
Verbindung wird hergestellt. Since I use a German system
Go here to check whether Media player is loaded at all: http://home.htp-tel.de/sterntaler/test.html#plugins
Also look in menu: Help -> About : Plugins
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 07:29AM by guenter.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
johnywhy
Date: October 18, 2009 09:26AM
here's the info in Help>About Plugins:
Windows Presentation Foundation
File name: NPWPF.dll
Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) plug-in for Mozilla browsers
MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/x-ms-xbap XAML Browser Application xbap Yes
application/xaml+xml XAML Document xaml Yes
WMP does not load in http://home.htp-tel.de/sterntaler/test.html#plugins
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 09:53AM by johnywhy.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
siria
Date: October 18, 2009 09:33AM
No idea if this plays a role here, but in general avis are tricky. They can contain all sorts of internal codecs, and if one is missing on a computer, WMP won't play it, even stand-alone. If the avi could be downloaded it would be interesting to test this. If it doesn't play in IE either, that might be a hint...
Wondering, does the WMP-plugin play all the codecs that WMP-standalone knows, or must each codec be somehow included in the plugin?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 09:34AM by siria.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
johnywhy
Date: October 18, 2009 09:55AM
this plays for me in ie and locally-
http://blip.tv/file/2732633?filename=Scvdotnet-2FramesBoostPerfSoundHiPri2k4k461.avi
but not in km
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 09:55AM by johnywhy.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
siria
Date: October 18, 2009 11:31AM
Oh pity, so plugins seem to need every codec themselves, urgh..
According to GSPOT it's an xvid-mp4 avi.
I've read that those plugins are universal, not browser-related, so wondering, would it work in FFox?? On my old system not, and when I click on "get plugin", FF tries then gives up: Plugin not found. But that need not mean much, I'm on win98 and have very little clue about FF myself ;-P Point of this being, it's probably easier to find a working plugin searching it for FF (if it exists) than for (hardly known) KM, but the FF-one should then be copy-able into KM ;-)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 11:33AM by siria.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
desga2
Date: October 18, 2009 12:48PM
Read blip.tv requiriments in FAQ.
Are you tried to change the User Agent string to Firefox?
Tools -> User Agent -> Firefox
K-Meleon in SpanishEdited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 12:48PM by desga2.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
siria
Date: October 18, 2009 02:13PM
The flv-version plays fine, just not the avi.
After some research now, does anyone have quicktime installed? On my old system it runs only a very outdated version, but in the meantime xvid seems to have been added to quicktime. My old plugin is "npqtplugin.dll", may be the same name for newer versions. Actually it's a whole bunch, the others have numbers at the end. Anyone has a newer one, to put in the KM-plugin-folder and try?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 02:15PM by siria.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
siria
Date: October 18, 2009 11:26PM
There's a slightly complicated workaround for firefox (+KM), but if it helps or not depends on which windowsmedia-player-plugin one has:
http://www.krunk4ever.com/blog/2007/05/14/missing-codecs-in-firefox-to-play-video-in-gallery2/
It's also posted in this several years long thread with more details:
http://gallery.menalto.com/node/35788
To put it short, and if I read that right, it seems that for some odd reason microsoft has forgotten to include in its plugin for other browsers the version "x-msvideo"/avi, that is, the plugin actually can play it, it just suffers a bit from Alzheimer: "Oh, that video is meant for me?? Oops..."
This can be cured with the workaround above.
But some say quicktime-plugins supposedly would also be able to play it? Can't confirm this on my old machine, but looking at the file properties of the newer plugins I found (up to qt7.45), neither of them lists x-msvideo or avi or even xvid...
But am afraid a second complication is the xvid-format, so the "fix" may only work for some avis, not all...
There are two version of the WMP-plugin, just a short info:
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Using+the+Windows+Media+Player+plugin+with+Firefox
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2009 11:48PM by siria.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
guenter
Date: October 19, 2009 04:02PM
I am sure that it does on my system.
Depending on what setup You have installed the test will either play the music in the embed tag. With activeX support installed it will play the standard compliant code. I have the Media Player but no activeX installed in the screenshot.
The later code is used the play music with any IE or Netscape mp3 plugin on the linked applet page "Imaginary Seascape". It contains/shows both the object and the embed legacy code.
<object classid="CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95" width="0" height="0" title="Playing: Gulls MP3 Sound">
<param name="filename" value="./3seemoeve.mp3" />
<param name="volume" value="55" />
<param name="autostart" value="true" />
<param name="loop" value="-1" />
<embed src="./3seemoeve.mp3" type="audio/x-mp3" autostart="true" width="0" height="0" loop="true"></embed>
</object>
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/19/2009 04:07PM by guenter.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
Yogi
Date: October 19, 2009 05:32PM
It is a MPEG-4 compression format.Quote
siria
According to GSPOT it's an xvid-mp4 avi.
All codecs using the same compression format will basically be able to also handle it.
VideoCodecs
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
guenter
Date: October 19, 2009 06:29PM
Maybe Video Lan Plugin is easier to configure to alternative browsers than WMP.
http://www.videolan.org/
supported mimetypes:
audio/mpeg MPEG audio mp2,mp3,mpga,mpega Yes audio/x-mpeg MPEG audio mp2,mp3,mpga,mpega Yes video/mpeg MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe Yes video/x-mpeg MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe Yes video/mpeg-system MPEG video mpg,mpeg,vob Yes video/x-mpeg-system MPEG video mpg,mpeg,vob Yes video/mpeg4 MPEG-4 video mp4,mpg4 Yes audio/mpeg4 MPEG-4 audio mp4,mpg4 Yes application/mpeg4-iod MPEG-4 video mp4,mpg4 Yes application/mpeg4-muxcodetable MPEG-4 video mp4,mpg4 Yes video/x-msvideo AVI video avi Yes video/quicktime QuickTime video mov,qt Yes application/x-ogg Ogg stream ogg Yes application/ogg Ogg stream ogg Yes application/x-vlc-plugin VLC plugin vlc Yes video/x-ms-asf-plugin Windows Media video asf,asx Yes video/x-ms-asf Windows Media video asf,asx Yes application/x-mplayer2 Windows Media plugin Yes video/x-ms-wmv Windows Media video wmv Yes application/x-google-vlc-plugin Google VLC plugin Yes audio/wav WAV audio wav Yes audio/x-wav WAV audio wav Yes audio/3gpp 3GPP audio 3gp,3gpp Yes video/3gpp 3GPP video 3gp,3gpp Yes audio/3gpp2 3GPP2 audio 3g2,3gpp2 Yes video/3gpp2 3GPP2 video 3g2,3gpp2 Yes
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/19/2009 06:30PM by guenter.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
siria
Date: October 19, 2009 07:29PM
WHOW - now that's a nice list!! And all those also work in a browser window? Can't find it on their site, blind as usual *sigh*
Would love to try it, except that now that test video has been deleted, argh! :-(
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
siria
Date: October 19, 2009 08:27PM
Crazy, I had no idea there are that many plugins in the extensions center!! I may well have come across when checking out the site, but if at that moment my head was too busy with other stuff, I tend to forget it again
Btw, I just downloaded today the new VLC 1.0.2 player. Would suppose the plugin is updated too, since the properties say so and it lists many more file formats as the one from kmext-site, just how in the world can a (zipped) 70kB file play so many video formats? Oh well, that's just too "high" for me, am used to that ;-) Anyway, have attached that plugin-102 if anyone is interested.
Don't forget to scan it for safety, mine isn't quite up-to-date...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/19/2009 08:28PM by siria.
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
guenter
Date: October 20, 2009 08:04PM
Thx for info about new version
Re: Windows Media Player Not Working
Posted by:
disrupted
Date: November 04, 2009 05:35PM
wmp mozilla plugin isn't supposed to play avi or mpg..only wmp specific formats like wmv, wma , asf etc. to make wmp play all supported formats by wmp in gecko(like in ie), you will need the special km wmp, download from there:
http://kmext.sourceforge.net/mplug.htm
this adds more formats. in case of avi, you might need some codecs to be installed if the avi used unregular (compression) format
if you don't have the required codec installed, then your best bet is the videolan plugin , also on the same page: (vlc multimedia plugin)
http://kmext.sourceforge.net/mplug.htm
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