Hi thomase, great to have you here :)
I'm also a fan of klassic skin and a long time ago made an extended version of it, with more buttons and lots of descriptions in the toolbars.cfg. Perhaps you'd like to try it too, it's called classiria skin
(IIRC one of the button descriptions -page colors?- is still wrong, but just ignore that one ;-)
Thanks for the warm welcome! :)
I will definitely check out your skin.
I find it hard to tell between the cold and dead icons with the Klassic skin, especially when switching between Windows Explorer and K-Meleon all the time, so I was thinking of making a larger Windows Classic-type skin to match the look of Windows Explorer and IE 5. I see there is already one made on the SkinsAndThrobbers page, but they work only with K-M older than version 0.8 :(
And I also like favorites! Am just not using the toolbar for them, since I prefer to click on a button to open them.
I really think favorites are by far the best system. This is the sole reason I was stuck with MSIE for so long!
It's so amazing to be able to just access each favorite in an individual file in Windows Explorer, synchronize them between computers without being tied to some online service, be able to tell the date you added them, etc.
I made a fix for that a long time ago.
It works great! :)
It would be nice to have them available in the K-M Favorites menu immediately, but it's really not a big deal at all, especially with the Favorites > Menu button to link to Windows Explorer!
But on my old win98 box I can still use the native IE function for adding them, which I prefer. Only pity, when I once tried that method on a newer machine there was some "forbidden" security error, no idea if it was just one of my security settings or a general prob, perhaps a programmer could find a working way.
This obviously wouldn't be the top priority, but it would be cool to make this work someday.
The version number "74" was explained by Dorian twice, he wrote that many websites these days just look for the version number of a browser, and with 74 we should be on the safe side for awhile, so I happily support that :D
I still don't see how having a version number of 24, the same version as Gecko, would not be high enough.
However, apparently not even the more ridiculously high number of 74 works, as this is what I get when I try to access my Hotmail account from the new Outlook.com Web mail interface:
It then proceeds to take me to its "basic version" for mobile devices.
It doesn't always happen, but I also noticed that Google doesn't display its newest interface. I'm not complaining, because I actually prefer their old interface, but it would indicate to me that either Gecko 24.x is either too old, or the User Agent string isn't right / being interpreted properly. WhatBrowser.com seems to be happy with me, so I dunno!
As a parallel browser you can also try KM1.6beta2.6 by JamesD, it still has an older gecko engine but far ahead of KM1.54, and has hardly any handling bugs.
I find it hard to believe that KM1.6beta2.6 could be useful to me, but thank you for bringing it to my attention! It is important to me for all the new-age Web sites I use daily like YouTube and Facebook work properly, so I need a recent layout engine, and I don't want to mess up my K-M 74 installation. I will try it out of curiousity on my new desktop once I get home, just out of curiosity, before I install K-M 74 atop it! :P
I just can't really see an older layout engine working for me, since even K-Meleon with Gecko 24 doesn't work perfectly!
I thought it was perfect as far as rendering, but while Facebook is great, I find there are some problems with YouTube. As I'm sure many have noticed, YouTube recently updated their commenting system to force everyone to get Google+ accounts and link them to their YouTube accounts. Anyway, when I click the "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" buttons on a comment, this is what happens:
A window pops up, covering my entire screen for a second. I don't mind; it's just kind of weird.
When I try to leave a comment in FF, you get a link arrow, click on what looks to be a text field, and voilà, an actual text field! In K-M, I get the link arrow, click in the text field, the full-screen window pops up, and nothing more. The text field-looking box remains a link, and there's nothing more I can do!
Even more strangely, when I click the control button in an actual video, the quality controls don't work for the video resolution!
This is puzzling to me, as I thought the whole thing was just Flash player! Why would everything all of the buttons work in the Flash player video except for those?!?
I have seen it!
There is some good stuff there, but the "current Web standards" section was very misleading, so I have updated it to better reflect the current situation!
Regarding the favorites bar, I have it working in my KM 74 beta 3. I had to specify some favorites in order to get it to show. In the preferences under KM plugins - IE Favorites, I enabled the bar and browsed to one of my folders within Favorites and added that folder to the bar. I restarted KM and then checked that the toolbars were unlocked. I did that from the view - toolbars menu. Favorites should show as a bar and have a check mark. The hard to spot item was that the favorites bar was all the way to the right side and showed only the word 'Links' with the >> symbol for more items. I grabbed the bar and pulled it down to the next line.
I did exactly this, but nothing happened.
The favorites DLL works just as delivered with KM 74. No need to change it. When I said you found a bug, I was wrong. I don't usually use the bar and I had to re-learn how to do it.
Did you change nothing to get it to work?
Is it worth my while to try and figure out guenter's possible solution?
You must remember that I'm running Windows XP, and it looks as though you're running Vista or Windows 7!
p.s. The best bet for XP SP3 is an older fovorites plugin. Period.
Could you recommend one that makes the favorites bar work with K-M 74?
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It has been working alright for me, but I agree, it's certainly not the best. The emoticons are absolutely awful, and there are only ten of them! I use tinypic
for my screenshot uploads, if that's what your problem is!
Let's face it. Soon there will be no GRE support by Mozilla.org
for XP anymore. Why? Because MS will make the new compilers incompatible.
It has already started. The dll code has changed little but the favorites bar is no longer visible on XP. If it is compiled with VC 10 with support for the most modern MS OSes.
As an simple user, I don't fully understand what you're saying here, but it doesn't sound good for me!
I can see that things might get more complicated, and we might need different installers for different Windows versions, but it must be possible!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/12/2014 10:21AM by thomase13.