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Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: jackuars
Date: November 17, 2010 02:50PM

Seen the open new tab button on the current tab in firefox? it would be handy in k-meleon too, cauz i dont wanna go all the way to the top of the browser for opening a new tab.Closing the tab seems fine to me as i enabled the close button.
Would someone tell me is there presently any feature like this so that i could add this feature to my browser by tweaking some settings. Any kind of help would be appreciated

Diana

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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: siria
Date: November 17, 2010 03:58PM

If you have some free space on the tab bar, just double-click there. (Attention, this *default* settings also closes a tab if you click on it instead of free space. If that happens, click "Sessions/Undo Last Closed")
Or right-click on a tab and use the context menu.
Or move the tab icons from the top toolbar to the side of your tabs row at bottom, there's a setting in preferences somewhere.
I suppose you don't want to use the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+T)

Take a closer look at the settings, what you want to happen if you middle- or right- or double-click on a tab or on free space, choose one of it for opening a new tab. I've set mine to close tabs with middle-clicking on it, and always opening new tabs with double-clicking anyhwere, on free space or another tab doesn't matter.

F2 > Browsing > Tabbed Browsing, Tab: Tab Bar

By the way those close buttons on tabs are mainly there for newbies, who haven't yet figured out that tabs can also be closed by double- or middle-click, depending on your settings, and without those not-really-needed close buttons you have more space to see the tab titles cool smiley

PS: That settings offers to "open a new tab when clicking a free space". That description is wrong, at least on my machine it also opens a new tab when clicking on an existing tab! Or is that only on win98??



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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 17, 2010 07:15PM

K-Meleon has context sensitive menus that open on right-click
.

It is good to experiment whether a situation, button or bar has a context menu.
In the beginning You will find new ones often smiling smiley

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jackuars
Seen the open new tab button on the current tab in firefox?

No, I did not use Firefox so intensively. grinning smiley

With K-Meleon: I right-click on the Tab Bar to show the tab context menu options.

For more things to do see siria's detailed cool smiley post.



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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: siria
Date: November 18, 2010 02:04AM

If you choose the settings below, you can double-click anywhere in the tab bar (free space or not) to open a new tab.

Or you can middle-click on free space, if you've left any (my row is always 'full' cool smiley) But frankly, I prefer to set for middle-click only the "close" function, just find it less confusing, for my nervous fingers ;-)





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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 18, 2010 03:57AM

Thanks siria for report it, I have a note for fixed it in next release.

K-Meleon in Spanish



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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: siria
Date: November 18, 2010 06:52AM

Ah thanks! At last, had mentioned it before, but wasn't noticed by any devs yet grinning smiley

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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 18, 2010 09:06AM

@siria. If You double-click into a tab field You close it. Like kko wrote.

Win XP pro SP3. Logitech mouse. Amilo Laptop. Reproduce: always.

But there is something else that is funny. If You pull the Layers Bar against another bar and let the grippy go from the mouse - the whole bar disappears.
You can get the bar back when You open a new tab.

Reproduce: always with 1.5.4 and 1.6.beta.



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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: jsnj
Date: November 18, 2010 12:32PM

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guenter
...If You double-click into a tab field You close it. Like kko wrote.

Win XP pro SP3. Logitech mouse. Amilo Laptop. Reproduce: always.

...

Not on my WinXP SP3. I get the behavior Siria described using the setting "On Double-Click - Open a new tab. Double-Clicking any tab or empty space on the tab bar opens a new tab. Actually that might be a good default setting since that's the closest thing to having a new tab button next to the tab as is the case in the big 4 browsers. What's also nice is that combined with the setting "Open new tabs - Next to current tab", double-clicking on any background tab will open a new tab next to it. The other browsers don't have that ability out of the box.



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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: siria
Date: November 18, 2010 04:17PM

Hey cool, even when clicking background tabs!
While we're at it, if it's not too much trouble another choice for "Nothing" could be helpful for hickup mice, especially touchpads on old notebooks, or for people with nervous fingers ;-) There was this guy recently, and guess Soeren or one of those Tüftler guys found that trick to set the pref to "-1". Perhaps even a choice for "Activate Tab" might help some people, but that's probably more complicated, no idea.

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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 18, 2010 08:09PM

Kindly look at the screenshot. I do not doubt that Yours does.
But what we are talking about are my settings. surprised smiley

K-Meleon here abides by them. And in my humble opinion they are the default settings?







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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: jsnj
Date: November 19, 2010 12:29AM

Yes, but look at Siria's last screenshot. That's the setting we were talking about that would make a good default setting and is the next best thing(or better) to having a new page button next to the last tab which is default in IE,FF,Chrome & Opera.



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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: siria
Date: November 19, 2010 02:51AM

My two settings (inside that little red frame) are different ones = customized.
Yours are the same ones in both lines, that's default yes, and that's why we get different behavior.
But we're not talking default behavior, just possibilities for settings, and a wrong note in one of the options ;-)

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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 19, 2010 05:34AM

I do not need to set middle click when I have a two button mouse. Do I? surprised smiley

p.s. If the setting You mention is default with ALL other browsers it seems ok to alter.

BTW. I do not use IE at all and FF only rarely.
So I did not Know that they have mouse gestures by default. confused smiley



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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: siria
Date: November 19, 2010 06:16AM

Irgendwie reden wir hier total im Nebel rum smiling smiley
Nee, das ist natürlich *nicht* Standard in anderen Browsern. Wovon bei *denen* hier die Rede ist, ist so ein kleiner leerer "Mini-Tab" nach dem letzten normalen Tab, der wie ein Toolbar-Button funktioniert. Wenn man den anclickt, wird eine neue leere Seite erzeugt, so wie wenn man bei KM ins Leere doppelclickt. Ist aber viel intuitiver ehrlich gesagt.
Bei KM ist aber vor allem das Problem, dass die Tab-Reihe da so schnell voll ist (bei 6 ist Ende Fahnenstange auf meinen 14zoll) und dann ist kein leerer Platz mehr da wo man draufclicken kann cool smiley Von daher ist es echt nützlich, wenn man stattdessen genausogut auf irgendeinen anderen Tab clicken kann, um eine neue Seite zu öffnen, also dass man damit nicht auf "leeren" Platz angewiesen ist, wie die Optionen fälschlich suggerieren...

Guck mal hier, das kleine Plus hinterm letzten Tab:

http://www.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Mozilla-Firefox-Final-Screenshot-5787.html

Beim IE isses leer, daher kenn ich's, vom Job:

http://www.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/CloudBerry-Twitter-plug-in-for-IE-Screenshot-120629.html

Beim IE kann man übrigens auch Tabs mit Mittelclick schließen, nur Doppelclick tut nix.



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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: jsnj
Date: November 19, 2010 06:46AM

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guenter
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p.s. If the setting You mention is default with ALL other browsers it seems ok to alter.

BTW. I do not use IE at all and FF only rarely.
So I did not Know that they have mouse gestures by default. confused smiley

The latest versions of the most used Windows browsers(the aforementioned) have a new tab button next to the last tab to its immediate right. Migrating users who are used to that and are requesting it, prefer it to the new tab button located on the Tab/Window Buttons bar presumably for proximity reasons. In KM, opening a new tab from the same position as the requested new tab button can be accomplished using the 'On Double-Click: Open a new tab' setting in the Mouse Control section under Tabbed Browsing - Tab Bar in Preferences.

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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 19, 2010 07:06AM

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siria
Irgendwie reden wir hier total im Nebel rum smiling smiley

Stimmt.

p.s. Ihr macht euch ohnehin Gedanken um ungelegte Eier. Ich habe grad gefunden, dass nicht nur ./kplugins/spelltest.dll sondern die ganze Spelltestkomponente der offizielen GRE 1.9.1.16pre hin ist. Ich bin völlig bedient. Mit einer anderen geht sie, doch die geht beim Schließen in die Knie, wie 1.7a. Ich hatte mit der Chromeeindeutschung angefangen, aber das erübrigt sich wohl bei nem Alpha.



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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: jackuars
Date: November 22, 2010 04:32AM

Well Well...The thread i started is indeed getting hotter!smiling smiley except i wished it was totally in englishgrinning smiley

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Re: Open new tab button on present tab
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 22, 2010 09:07AM

It is also the German Forum - if it was not I would have gone 7600 posts ago grinning smiley

p.s. I told siria in German that I was unhappy and why.

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