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browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: siria
Date: November 08, 2009 12:41AM

A week or two ago I came across a link that crashed the browser. Error message and on OK the browser closes itself. I saved the bookmark and moved on.
But now today the same thing happened on another site! So this is really becoming weird, I'm not used to crashes any more since the 1.5.x versions. After much testing I now suspect strongly it has to do with the gecko update to 1.8.1.23... Perhaps anyone can figure out more?

Link-1: http://forum.videohelp.com/topic291247.html
Link-2: http://www.gwd-minden.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1193

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 08, 2009 01:33AM

No crash for me in the above posted webs. Tested in Firefox 2.0.0.20, K-Meleon 1.5.3 official and 1.5.3 with my updated Gecko 1.8.1.23, all over Win2K.

Please report more info; windows version, extensions, macros, plugins, ...

Are you tried with a new profile?

K-Meleon in Spanish



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/08/2009 01:34AM by desga2.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: siria
Date: November 08, 2009 02:31AM

win98se (with updates)
After first trying with disabling macros and other stuff, I finally gave up and took the "fresh install" version where I had recently tried the gecko update. With or without the SVG update it crashed. Another older but unused "fresh install" version with gecko-21 had no probs.

By the way the videohelp page crashes only after loading the left side and the top of the main part, the other crashes immediately:




It looks like something in the google ads crashes the videohelp page, the other page has only the page URL in the status line when crashing.
The above videohelp pic was with only popups and ads blocked.
The next pic is with nothing blocked:







Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/08/2009 03:00AM by siria.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 08, 2009 03:08AM

No crashes.

GWD Minden keeps loading on a Dual Core Athlon 3 gb USABLE ram
(XP - also with 9x.exe no SVG). sad smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/08/2009 03:09AM by guenter.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: Matt
Date: November 08, 2009 03:52AM

Hab die beiden "bösartigen" Links gecheckt - XP SP3, K-M 1.5.3 mit und ohne desga's Update, Adblock Plus sowie CSS-Adblocking ein/ausgeschaltet - keine Abstürze.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 08, 2009 07:14AM

@ siria:
I tried also with kmeleon9x.exe file in KM 1.5.3 updated to Gecko 23 without any crash in Win2K.

Can you tried if you have this problem with Gecko 22 update?
What User Agent string are you using?

K-Meleon in Spanish



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/08/2009 07:15AM by desga2.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: siria
Date: November 08, 2009 07:20AM

Uh, where do I get that one again...?

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 08, 2009 07:47AM
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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: siria
Date: November 08, 2009 09:33PM

Okay thanks! Tried it again:

System restarted, KM 153 downloaded and unzipped today, profile inside, only added hotlist:
- Both pages OKAY.

KM 153 see above, Gecko updated to 18122: Yet worse than 18123.

PRIVACY everything allowed:

- videohelp crashes on googlead, page all white yet
- minden too, all white yet

PRIVACY everything blocked and cache emptied:

- videohelp crashes on loading forum..., page all white yet:
- minden: same as all allowed, all white yet

ERROR says:
K-MELEONW9X verursachte eine allgemeine Schutzverletzung
in Modul GDI.EXE bei 002b:0000028a.

(General protection fault)

(German win98se, but not original any more, lots of updates)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/08/2009 09:34PM by siria.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: patclash
Date: November 08, 2009 11:23PM

Hi all,

I have the same crash as Siria for the 2 links
I use KM 1.5.3 with gecko update 1.8.1.3 on French version of W98SE sad smiley

Here the error message :
K-MELEON a causé une défaillance de protection générale
dans le module GDI.EXE à 002b:0000028a.
Registres :
EAX=00000001 CS=0627 EIP=0000028a EFLGS=00000246
EBX=769f0231 SS=769f ESP=00006f4a EBP=00004350
ECX=00000000 DS=0177 ESI=00004f77 FS=0000
EDX=89690000 ES=03c2 EDI=00000177 GS=0000
Octets à CS : EIP :

Is there an issue only on W98 ?

edit: the 2 links work well with Firefox 2.0.0.20



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/08/2009 11:53PM by patclash.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: siria
Date: November 09, 2009 02:06AM

Did some more experimenting...

Saved the two pages to disk (with "default" gecko before update), then found that the minden page seems fairly simple, contains nothing fancy, no scripts etc., only gifs. So opened the page in notepad2 and deleted "suspicious" lines, but didnt help. Then deleted the whole CSS-block, and it worked again. Then deleted only single parts of it, and after countless crashes found the "bad" line!!

Minden-page, this causes the crash:

/* The largest text used in the index page title and toptic title etc. */
.maintitle {
font-weight: bold; font-size: 22px; font-family: "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif",Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
text-decoration: none; line-height : 120%; color : #000000;
}

If I delete the red part, the page opens okay from disk! (in gecko -23)

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: siria
Date: November 09, 2009 02:11AM

Ha, the videohelp-page contains the exactly same line and typos!!
(In the videohelp.css file)

Would you believe it, that page works also fine if only deleted that typo.
But there's a problem now, is this is in countless phpbb2-stylesheets, it must be spread over countless forums *sigh*



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/09/2009 02:14AM by siria.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 09, 2009 05:10AM

Thanks to siria for your test.

This is an CSS error in the the code:
font-family: "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif",Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;

The correct code is:
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;

Like you can read here, quotes are for indicate a font type with spaces in his name. In this case the browser try to find a font named "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" and this cause the GDI.exe Windows's 98 element to crash the browser.

I'm searching some solution to avoid this in updates.

Please remember my updates are UNOFFICIAL, not post about updates problem in "Crash Report Thread" in KM Bugs subforum, thanks.

K-Meleon in Spanish



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/09/2009 05:18AM by desga2.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: siria
Date: November 09, 2009 05:36AM

Thanx desga, would be great if you could find a way to avoid those crashes :-)

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 09, 2009 07:14AM

I think I found the problematic file but I cann't test it because my Win98SE system have zombie his primary HD.

The bad file is \components[b]content_xtf.xpt[/b] , you must replace this file from the official K-Meleon 1.5.3 or replace by the before file if you did a backup with the updater installer (\Back-Updater).

Remember delete *.dat files (compreg.dat and xpti.dat) in \components folder before to run K-Meleon.

K-Meleon in Spanish

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: siria
Date: November 09, 2009 08:47AM

Sorry, still crash...

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 10, 2009 05:27AM

@ siria:
Can you test this new update from SM 1.1.18 (not guenter's build)?
Updater from SM 1.1.18 to fix W9x problems.

While I resurrect my old Win98SE to test what is the problematic file in guenter's build.

K-Meleon in Spanish



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/2009 04:58PM by desga2.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: siria
Date: November 10, 2009 06:16AM

Okay, tried it. No crash with SM smiling smiley

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 10, 2009 01:14PM

Meanwhile I located a Tinderbox .mozconfig published by Kairo.
I will do a test build with that. Hope it is not from the free environment that I use.

Else will we only have original SeaMonkey builds.
& IMHO they are done with a slower compiler.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/2009 01:16PM by guenter.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 12, 2009 05:11AM

I founded the bad file in Win98: gkgfxwin.dll
If you change it for a gkgfxwin.dll from Seamonkey 1.1.18 work fine in Win9x.

P.S.; That ugly is Win9x! tongue sticking out smiley

2 Bonus Info:

An interesant old How to build a Gecko/Mozilla browser.

An interesant old blog about font types in browsers.

K-Meleon in Spanish



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/12/2009 06:05AM by desga2.

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Re: browser crashes - culprit gecko update 1.8.1.23 ?
Posted by: siria
Date: November 12, 2009 07:33AM

BINGO!! You found it grinning smiley
No crashes anymore, thank you :-))

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