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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: siria
Date: October 03, 2014 08:17PM

Just glad Yogi remembered the usual no.1 tip for such probs again, after I got completely sidetracked by that confusing UA mystery ;-)

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: siria
Date: October 03, 2014 08:21PM

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JohnHell
Depending of the browser viewport size (heightxwidth) it shows the mobile version or the desktop version. EDIT: by the way mine is 1024x768 1008x674 (viewport, not screen size). Less is equal to mobile.
What a dumb system

Oh, another "clever" thing I would never have guessed - Hehe, and love your icon! grinning smiley Way too little phorum icons here, pity.

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: KM2005
Date: October 03, 2014 08:21PM

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JohnHell
Ok, got it!!!

LOL, don't sing the victory anthem.

And it is a very bad policy from gmx.

Depending of the browser viewport size (heightxwidth) it shows the mobile version or the desktop version. EDIT: by the way mine is 1024x768. Less is equal to mobile.

What a dumb system

LOL, it took me a bit to figure out what you meant. You broke my feature-rich gmx mail again. LOL. Just kidding. I see what you mean now. (I don't know why, but after I created the new KM profile I maximized or the KM window was maximized as a new profile setting. I made the window smaller, relogged in to a mobile-light feature version.grinning smiley (I like it in a stupid way now that I know how to get around the problem).

(Taking the trophy back from siria and passing it to JohnHell)tongue sticking out smiley (Heck, siria gets a trophy too).

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: KM2005
Date: October 03, 2014 08:27PM

Hmmm, siria and JohnHell, I'm thinking IE and Pale Moon login to the full-feature version in a smaller window. Got me curious.

(After all these years and perhaps KM 1.7-1.6 or whatever version last worked with the gmx-full features actually worked and I didn't know it at the time.)

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: siria
Date: October 03, 2014 08:37PM

crazy - crazier - gmx tongue sticking out smiley And it still continues?! Ah no, thanks, they seem a hopeless case, I give up.

But since lots of people have gmx accounts, perhaps post your solution(s) into the beginning of the very first post for them to find it quicker?

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: KM2005
Date: October 03, 2014 08:39PM

I checked IE again. Made the window a bit smaller. It developed the JohnHell mentioned affect.

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: KM2005
Date: October 03, 2014 08:43PM

siria, I'll do that. (I've actually had this problem for many months or maybe a few years; but simply started using another browser only for that problem site. I always have my KM window opening at the same exact size--just a bit too small which causes the gmx-affect).

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: October 03, 2014 08:54PM

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siria
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JohnHell
Depending of the browser viewport size (heightxwidth) it shows the mobile version or the desktop version. EDIT: by the way mine is 1024x768 1008x674 (viewport, not screen size). Less is equal to mobile.
What a dumb system

Oh, another "clever" thing I would never have guessed - Hehe, and love your icon! grinning smiley Way too little phorum icons here, pity.

Choose the one you like and post it winking smiley The facepalm is becoming a classic so fast in the last months on every forum I visit.

http://www.emoticons.online.fr/ (automatic forum code generation)

Dumb question, KM2005, why use a smaller window and/or viewport? Maybe for mosaic view sharing the screen for various programs? Now I'm just curious tongue sticking out smiley

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: rodocop
Date: October 03, 2014 09:09PM

Yes, viewport size makes the trick. GMX knows how to surprise ;-)

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: KM2005
Date: October 03, 2014 09:27PM

JohnHell, not maximized and a bit smaller than maximzed so that I can click open folders and documents on the desktop (with the browser taking up most of the windowspace; I don't use slideout bars for that).

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: guenter
Date: October 03, 2014 09:35PM

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KM2005

I'd have to figure out how to do liveHTTPHeaders, never heard of it.

One of several HTTP monitor addons for Firefox that work for K-Meleon.

Bookmark or Hotlink the URL that calls the addon:

chrome://livehttpheaders/content/LiveHTTPHeaders.xul

And drop the attachment into ./K-Meleon/browser/extensions

p.s. Another usefull URL: about:addons to check whether it installed.

You can also use this macro instead of the bookmark. Creates a menu item in Help.
That is where the ancient K-Meleon Xul addons had their menu item. 0.8 & 0.9 times.



# K-Meleon Macros (http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?id=MacroLanguage)

# ---------- LiveHTTPHeaders (Live HTTP Headers) -------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Dependencies	: main.kmm (OpenURL) 
# Resources	: -
# Preferences	: -
#
# ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

livehttpheaders{
$OpenURL="chrome://livehttpheaders/content/LiveHTTPHeaders.xul"; &OpenURL_InNewWindow;
}

# ----- PRIVATE

_livehttpheaders_BuildMenu{
# edit menu
setmenu(KMAbout,macro,"Live HTTP Headers",livehttpheaders);
}
$OnInit=$OnInit."_livehttpheaders_BuildMenu;";

# ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
$macroModules=$macroModules."livehttpheaders;";


No I do not think I land on the "m" page. grinning smiley

It is the freemail page:


https://navigator.gmx.net/navigator/show?sid=093192373b32457891dd654852e1c4886582e67fb5674d8b5808ca0eaa1b5a0f1768f2fd016c45b85d82625bca1821c3#home



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/03/2014 09:43PM by guenter.

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: November 19, 2014 08:12PM

And we thought GMX.com was dumb for this behavior...

My mobile operator updated the website and now... requires at least 1200 px of width for the viewport/screen to consider you as a desktop user!!!

WTF!!!



I hate mobiles trend. I hate responsive web (aka CSS based on viewport).

sad smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/2014 08:12PM by JohnHell.

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: Dorian
Date: November 24, 2014 07:23PM

So if I switch my monitor in portrait mode, my computer become a mobile?
I've found a lot of stupid implementation, this one is really good grinning smiley

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 24, 2014 09:56PM

grinning smiley

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: November 25, 2014 03:12AM

If we think about it, it saves resources... for the webmaster, for the server, of course.

In my opinion is easier to have a mobile version of your website, ever. There is no need to change anything, just a "copy" (with DB calls there isn't waste of real space) with another CSS... but...

I'm going to end not caring at all about this, but my nerves are going to explode some day.

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Re: Browser compatability with a website (gmx.com)
Posted by: JohnHell
Date: June 21, 2015 04:45PM

Hi there,

I found that zooming out the whole page creates a "simulation" of a wider screen viewport and, therefore, the pages that are designed with responsive CSS are correctly viewed without changing the Windows desktop screen dimensions, just zooming out.

Now I can see my operator site without problems. With tinier font, but I least I don't need to make complex tricks.

Give a try with those sites that are giving problems to you like with GMX. But I think GMX didn't use responsive CSS. Or they do, but looks they set a more normal size for the viewport to consider it mobile.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/21/2015 04:48PM by JohnHell.

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