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K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: Dorian
Date: February 02, 2009 12:10AM

This is just a kmeleon build (no gre) working with current mozilla trunk and improved vista compatibility, for those making complete package.

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/files/k-meleon16.7z

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: desga2
Date: February 02, 2009 12:27AM

Thanks Dorian!

K-Meleon in Spanish

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: Hao Jiang
Date: February 03, 2009 12:54AM

Failed to start with the latest trunck here (well, I'm using Win 7 at this moment smiling smiley )

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: xGrind
Date: February 03, 2009 03:00AM

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: xGrind
Date: February 03, 2009 03:44AM

msvcr80d.dll not found

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: desga2
Date: February 03, 2009 05:27AM
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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: desga2
Date: February 03, 2009 05:47AM

I have problems with favicons transparency that is showed as black color in backgrounds and with scroll bars not showed (similar problem to Fred's SM versions).
I think this happend to mix the new SM chrome.dll (Gecko 1.9) with K-Meleon old chrome (some file lost in chrome). Not worked when I used old K-Meleon chrome.dll.

His speed is impressive! smiling smiley

About K-Meleon web page have some problems to render good.
And browsing I obtain a lot of errors, warnings and messages in Error Console.

K-Meleon in Spanish



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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: guenter
Date: February 03, 2009 09:22PM

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desga2
(similar problem to Fred's SM versions).
I think this happend to mix the new SM chrome.dll (Gecko 1.9) with K-Meleon old chrome (some file lost in chrome).

About K-Meleon web page have some problems to render good.

And browsing I obtain a lot of errors, warnings and messages in Error Console.

1.) K-Meleon needs a new chrome. We also made a new chrome when Dorian moved K-Meleon to 1.8. The 1.9 chromes know new defaults and values.

2.) about: draws about.png from a new default location, some other locations have changed also. That is fixed and tested by disrupted, Fred and me.

3.) Error console still needs fixes. I do not know whether I can fix.

The SourceViewer is broken & I have no idea how to fix.

That viewSource.xul of toolkit is no good since it does not guide to the line and place. It only opens the source file. Probable reason no findbar.

Does any one know a method to redirect these blue links in Error console into K-Meleon's own native programmed SourceViewer?




mtypes is broken. I made version 0.3 from Mozilla 1.7.12 code but I can not fix it anymore. This does not matter. A similar tool is in kko's prefs.

Part of the kko's prefs panel seems to want functions that do not exist in 1.9 chrome. He is informed.

4.) How much support for the Toolkit API must stay in/from ./chrome/toolkit.jar?





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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: Dorian
Date: February 04, 2009 01:11AM

There was a bad dependency left in the build.
I've updated it

Download it again
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/files/k-meleon16.7z

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: desga2
Date: February 04, 2009 01:52AM

Thanks Dorian, now msvcr80d.dll file isn't needed. smiling smiley

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: guenter
Date: February 09, 2009 06:23AM

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Dorian
There was a bad dependency left in the build.

Thx... smiling smiley

With that bad dependency it only works with the whole 2005 MS update package installed. sad smiley

IMHO MS fault. Compilation's exe must not die with these little marginal/human errors. sad smiley



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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: caktus
Date: February 09, 2009 10:16AM

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desga2
His speed is impressive! smiling smiley[/quote=desga2]

How does it's speed compare to 1.5.1 and 1.5.2? Did you have to ad any page speed tweaks?

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~


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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: desga2
Date: February 10, 2009 03:54AM

I'm like said that his speed (with default settings) in startup and rendering web pages is notable in comparation with official 1.5.x versions with default settings.

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: guenter
Date: February 10, 2009 08:41AM

1.6 (GRE 1.9.1) is ABSOLUT the fastest current browser for JS heavy pages.
No matter what compiler!

Settings and prefs are negliable but can speed up all GRE.
Per se they can achiece a lot - but cannot blure speed diffs reaally.

At least with alike settings the faster GRE will be IMHO faster.



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javascript performance
Posted by: steve
Date: March 13, 2009 05:30AM
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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: ndebord
Date: March 14, 2009 10:39PM

Guenter,

And here I am on my aging T40 Thinkpad thinking that the speed of KM 1.5.2 is magnificient when compared to KM 1.0.2 (which is faster than FF and IE6.)

<VBG>

N



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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: Clubby
Date: March 17, 2009 04:44PM

Hi,

I'm using the VC8 compiler and don't get the K-Meleon 1.5x Release with Gecko 1.8 to build. Where can I download the src of K-meleon 1.6 based on Gecko 1.9 or when will this be available?

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: Hao Jiang
Date: March 17, 2009 11:54PM

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Clubby
Hi,

I'm using the VC8 compiler and don't get the K-Meleon 1.5x Release with Gecko 1.8 to build. Where can I download the src of K-meleon 1.6 based on Gecko 1.9 or when will this be available?

Src is in the CVS, the same with 1.5x release however you need to define GECKO_VERSION 19 in the header before building.

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: Ken
Date: March 26, 2009 07:57AM

When you say Gecko 1.9.1, are you referring to Gecko SDK (which has been renamed to XULRunner SDK)?

I see in from 3 different location in Mozilla site the latest release is 1.9.0.7.

https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Gecko_SDK
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/releases/
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/releases/

Where can I get Gecko 1.9.1?

I am also trying to build K-Meleon using MSVC8.0 (VS 2005).

Would you also post the link to the K-Meleon source tarball that can be built with MSVC8.0.

Thank you.

Ken

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: 4td8s
Date: July 17, 2009 05:44AM

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Ken
When you say Gecko 1.9.1, are you referring to Gecko SDK (which has been renamed to XULRunner SDK)?

Where can I get Gecko 1.9.1?

I am also trying to build K-Meleon using MSVC8.0 (VS 2005).

Would you also post the link to the K-Meleon source tarball that can be built with MSVC8.0.

Thank you.

Ken

hi Ken. A candidate build of XULRunner 1.9.1 has been released late last week. Go here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/nightly/1.9.1-candidates/build1/

I'll wait for a recent progress report on K-meleon 1.6 from Dorian.

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: bksening
Date: July 22, 2009 06:53AM

When we say Gecko 1.9.1, we mean the layout engine developed by the Mozilla Project, which is used in Firefox and all other "Gecko-based" browsers, including K-Meleon (and no, that's not XULRunner). See also:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko_(layout_engine)

You can get Gecko 1.9.1 by downloading the source for Firefox, for example:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/3.5.1/



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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: 4td8s
Date: July 23, 2009 12:54AM

thanks for the clarification, bksening.
hope you took note of that, Ken.

getting the "source" for Firefox 3.5.1 might be here instead:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/3.5.1/source/

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: ra
Date: July 26, 2009 10:49PM

Any updates on this topic? When can we test a complete package, even if it's only alpha or beta? drool smiley

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: Yogi
Date: July 27, 2009 02:13AM

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ra
When can we test a complete package, even if it's only alpha or beta? drool smiley

Some severe bugs have been introduced with the new JS engine.
While Firefox 3.5.1 is a bugfix release it doesn't fix them all.
Therefore I wouldn't be so impatient for an official new alpha/beta release for now.

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: bksening
Date: July 28, 2009 01:40AM

So presumably these new, severe JS bugs are already in/have been entered into Mozilla's bugtracker? ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ )

Yogi, did you just read about these JS bugs from Mozilla bugs, or is there a list of these bugs somewhere else?

And in case if not, will these new, severe JS bugs be entered into Mozilla bugs?

In fact, I am very impatient for an official alpha/beta of KM based on Gecko 1.9.1. KM has languished using old Gecko 1.8.1 far too long.



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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: 4td8s
Date: August 03, 2009 08:36AM

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bksening
In fact, I am very impatient for an official alpha/beta of KM based on Gecko 1.9.1. KM has languished using old Gecko 1.8.1 far too long.

well why don't you contact Dorian, desga2 or guenter privately and tell them your concerns about when an official alpha/beta of a Gecko 1.9.1x based KM will be available? otherwise, go try out Hao Jiang's KMCCF ME 0.096 browser which is based on Gecko 1.9.1. sheesh!

unlike you, bksening, I can wait as long as I want, even I have to wait a year or two for an official Gecko 1.9.1 based Kmeleon browser to be released.



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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: foxkyo
Date: August 03, 2009 06:32PM

Would you please tell me how to update it?
I had overwrite the files uncompress from this package
Into my folder k-meleon 1.5.3

but it crash!! somebody can help me?
thanks

ps.sorry for bad English

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: Yogi
Date: August 04, 2009 03:07AM

@bksening

Sorry I kept silent so long and didn't reply to your post.
The reason, I couldn't give away the source of my information nor the nature of the bugs.
Maybe it would have been wiser to keep my mouth shut up.
However, Firefox 3.5.2 released today will fix several security issues.

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: bksening
Date: August 05, 2009 03:59AM

I shall contact Dorian, desga2 and guenter about the schedule for Gecko 1.9.1x based K-Meleon. I also wonder why KMCCF ME 0.096 hasn't been made into the official Gecko 1.9.1 KM? But that of course is the difference: will there be an official Gecko 1.9.1 KM or not? The KMCCF one specifically says not official, and that is all the difference.

As well, willingness to wait a year or two for an official Gecko 1.9.1 KM is definitely the wrong mindset. Browser improvements, fixes, enhancements are developed regularly and it certainly it not reasonable nor good to be willing to wait a year or two for Gecko 1.9.1 to get to KM.

Unless KM is going to skip Gecko 1.9.1 entirely? Maybe go straight to whatever Gecko will be used in Firefox 3.6/3.7/4.0 in one or two years time? It will probably be the long awaited Gecko 2.0 revamp by then.

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Re: K-Meleon 1.6 for Gecko 1.9.1/MSVC8.0
Posted by: ndebord
Date: August 06, 2009 09:31AM

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bksening
I shall contact Dorian, desga2 and guenter about the schedule for Gecko 1.9.1x based K-Meleon. I also wonder why KMCCF ME 0.096 hasn't been made into the official Gecko 1.9.1 KM? But that of course is the difference: will there be an official Gecko 1.9.1 KM or not? The KMCCF one specifically says not official, and that is all the difference.

As well, willingness to wait a year or two for an official Gecko 1.9.1 KM is definitely the wrong mindset. Browser improvements, fixes, enhancements are developed regularly and it certainly it not reasonable nor good to be willing to wait a year or two for Gecko 1.9.1 to get to KM.

Unless KM is going to skip Gecko 1.9.1 entirely? Maybe go straight to whatever Gecko will be used in Firefox 3.6/3.7/4.0 in one or two years time? It will probably be the long awaited Gecko 2.0 revamp by then.

FF 3.5xxx is a major change in how that browser works. The decision to use SQLITE for cookies, bookmarks, history and passwords has been an interesting one and there are problems that have been reported all over the place. Whether or not the decision to move from Wallet, etc., was a good one and moving from the old Netscape HTML format was a good one is still yet to be made.

But what it means for a macro based browser like K-Meleon is lots of decisions and changes. This is not an easy upgrade and since (To My Mind) KM 1.5.3 has been a successful and bug-free browser, the decison to make the change and the work required to do so successfully, must be made when it is ready to be Gold code and not a day before.

Play with Hao's versions if you must have 1.9.xxx right this minute. KM has been successful for many years by marching to the beat of its own drummer and to paraphrase an advertising jingle: no release is made before its time (just my two cents worth).

Let me reiterate. This a tough release to make work with KM which does not use XUL/XPI. FireFox, imo, has bet the ranch on SQLite and that is a major, major, yes, major change in the Mozilla Gecko browser and all those who make other browsers based upon Gecko and those who do extensions are scrambling to make sense of this sea change. Not an easy task... not even a little bit.

N



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