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JamesD
I am not a developer, but I suspect the physical size and resources required will be larger for the 74 code compared to the 1.6 code. It is a little early to be specific on this. Lots of code from XULrunner is still included which the final product may not require.
As the price of memory and storage space has gone down, and the complexity of HTML and CSS have gone up, the memory and storage space requirements have increased. It is sad but some older hardware and operating systems will have a hard time adapting to the new environment.
I am not sure if rodocop has gotten a new "TWIN" completed yet. I am currently working with naruman's latest code while trying to also maintain contact with code from Dorian and adodupan. I feel sure that they will communicate with each other and some day we will have an official version. I have no idea how long that will take.
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siria
Thank you James Just IMO that sentence with "is on indefinite hold" is just not true anymore and could simply be deleted. Have also read somewhere (cited here in the forum?) that this thing about withdrawn support for embedding was only a misunderstanding. One of the mozilla developers said that and explained that the process was just somehow more work now, more complicated, but anyway still supported. Or some such.
Peter, I'm no developer either and can't even test the new versions myself, being on win98, but my impression from reading the KM74 threads is rather some sort of very 'creative chaos' due to current hurricane speed, with nearly daily bugfixes posted from the various developers They do exchange about bugs and do post their fixes as soon as someone figures anything out, so that in the end Dorian can merge it all together into an official version. And until then there may be the one or other interim version from any of them, to facilitate testing the new stuff for everyone else. But of course that's just my personal interpretation
I just wouldn't worry so much about theoretical concerns at the moment, while development status is so quickly progressing and things are changing everyday. Guess I just have some trust in Dorian that he knows what he's doing, as always, and the others give me that impression too ;-)
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siria
Uhm, you're citing this thread as "source" in wikipedia for that Mozilla embedding thing?? But this is just feeble heresay, by far not solid enough to post it like a fact there. So that part should really be removed as long as the real source isn't linked!
Of course I tried now to remember where I had read that and googled around a bit, but no luck so far. From my memory as clueless non-developer it was something along the lines of Mozilla did remove the embedding interface or whatever from their package, but if someone has lots of time to develop the code themselves they can still embed mozilla stuff.
To speak in images, it sounded sort of like they removed the draw-bridge over the water ditch into the castle, because it was too much work to maintain it, but that doesn't mean the door were closed too. It's still open and people are happily invited in if they just bring their own makeshift bridge ;-)
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siria
Uhm, you're citing this thread as "source" in wikipedia for that Mozilla embedding thing?? But this is just feeble heresay, by far not solid enough to post it like a fact there. So that part should really be removed as long as the real source isn't linked!
Of course I tried now to remember where I had read that and googled around a bit, but no luck so far. From my memory as clueless non-developer it was something along the lines of Mozilla did remove the embedding interface or whatever from their package, but if someone has lots of time to develop the code themselves they can still embed mozilla stuff.
To speak in images, it sounded sort of like they removed the draw-bridge over the water ditch into the castle, because it was too much work to maintain it, but that doesn't mean the door were closed too. It's still open and people are happily invited in if they just bring their own makeshift bridge ;-)
Interesting analogy siria!!
I take your point but there seems to still be conflicting reports or at least a conflicting undrstanding of the position. The point I was trying to make is that there is more to the gecko issue than was originally referenced in the article and that development has not stalled because of it, so that average users looking for an alternative browser are not turned away simply by reading the Wikipedia article as it was before my edits.