Am finally in the process of moving to beta-2 too, and keep occasionally finding nice little improvements for 1.6, which are cool

And really strongly support the new native spellchecker, since the whole world seems to need it so badly! Just can't find any menu or such for it, and personally would prefer to keep spellchecking with my own eyes (stupid lifelong habit ), and switch off those little red underlines... just, uhm, where do I find that? *riddling*

Hmm, could it be that the start-offline bug is back in beta2? I don't mean the win9x-bug with cache and sessions (can't open new tabs for uncached pages, tries to load in same tab), but that general one:
When the browser is closed in offline mode, then reopened, the offline mode is still checked. Yet the browser works like "online". When opening e.g. the previous session, it loads the pages fresh from the web, offline or not. Not sure what it does with cached pages, but at least for uncached ones it should show "page load errors" instead, like it does after toggling "offline" on and off again manually.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/23/2010 10:26PM by siria.

@siria

Perhaps I'm wrong, but under Linux, with Firefox, I have some trouble with offline. Try adding this pref if it's better (it solves my problem under Linux):

toolkit.networkmanager.disable => true

If Firefox doesn't find network, it opens offline

Perhaps the problem may occurs under windows ??? Who knows ...
I haven't had time to test K-Meleon 1.60b2

A+

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Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.17pre) Gecko/20101211 Ubuntu/12.04 (precise) K-Meleon/1.6.0
Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:1.9.2.14pre) Gecko/20101219 Ubuntu/12.04 (precise) K-Meleon/1.7.0

---

Web: K-Meleon Extension Setup (French) and (English)
Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr

---

Thanks Alain, I'll check it out, sounds interesting...

And grmpf - just noticed the hotlist.dll deletes my nicks again. When I first checked they were still there, yet now they are gone. Will copy over the 154 version again. Don't think there was anything changed functionwise, or was it...?

Quote
siria
Thanks Alain, I'll check it out, sounds interesting...

And grmpf - just noticed the hotlist.dll deletes my nicks again. When I first checked they were still there, yet now they are gone. Will copy over the 154 version again. Don't think there was anything changed functionwise, or was it...?

Start-offline bug is not back in beta2, always was here, simply he isn't gone.

kplugins included in Beta2 are the same that were included in alpha4, if this have problems in Win9x you can continued using kplugins from KM 1.5.4, if this work fine to you, no changes were added in kplugins.

K-Meleon in Spanish
The worst day of my life.
I feel like a GIF archive.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2010 03:48AM by desga2.

Tried that network pref, but pity, no chance.
Browser keeps starting in online mode always, whether "offline" seems checked or not.

Had a look how my hotlist was automatically changed by KM16 alpha+beta versions, without changing anything myself. Not yet after first start, but a bit later it seems.
Fix: The hotlist.dll from KM154 still works fine, have it copied over into KM16b2



Edit: Oops, had thought that offline thing had been fixed already, but remembered wrong ;-)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2010 04:09AM by siria.

Uhm, where are those spellchecker settings again...? (e.g. for disabling those red underlines, if not needed)

Quote

kplugins included in Beta2 are the same that were included in alpha4, if this have problems in Win9x you can continued using kplugins from KM 1.5.4

Still wondering, are you really sure that it's only due to win9x and not in other systems too? I mean, not all bugs that happen to be reported by me are automatically win9x caused Has anyone ever tested those hotlist nicks in real use?? It doesn't happen right after startup yet, only after using them. Not sure which action exactly, perhaps by calling a nick, or later by closing the browser...



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2010 07:25AM by siria.

Quote
siria
where are those spellchecker settings again...? (e.g. for disabling those red underlines, if not needed)

Never heard of that possibility.

The red lines under typos in 1.6 are AFAIK from ./components/spellchk.dll.
You cannot toggle components while the browser is running.
Except maybe by a macro that renames them?

./kplugins/spelltest.dll by mark307 does not work with 1.6.
Result: SpellCheck.kmm menu items do not work.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2010 08:11AM by guenter.

Quote
siria
Uhm, where are those spellchecker settings again...? (e.g. for disabling those red underlines, if not needed)

Quote

kplugins included in Beta2 are the same that were included in alpha4, if this have problems in Win9x you can continued using kplugins from KM 1.5.4

Still wondering, are you really sure that it's only due to win9x and not in other systems too? I mean, not all bugs that happen to be reported by me are automatically win9x caused Has anyone ever tested those hotlist nicks in real use?? It doesn't happen right after startup yet, only after using them. Not sure which action exactly, perhaps by calling a nick, or later by closing the browser...

Siria,

Guenter has played with spellchecker as much as humanly possible, imo. The partial fix he came up with at least allows you to see misspelled words with the red underline, but will NOT call up a spellchecker. My kludge for that problem has been to go to the web, download WordWeb 3.02 (last freeware I could find) and use that. WordWeb is invoked by using a hotkey (the default is Alt W, which I continue to use) on a highlighted word which will then call it up with a definition, synonyms, antonyms and if a misspell, it will call up your default browser. Not the same as KM's spellchecker, but a good enough kludge to keep me happy for now. <g>

N



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2010 09:09AM by ndebord.

You can setting spellchecker with this prefs from about:config

K-Meleon1.6_Beta2\defaults\pref\kmeleon.js

// Spell checker preferences
pref("layout.spellcheckDefault", 2);
pref("layout.textarea.spellcheckDefault", true);
pref("extensions.spellcheck.inline.max-misspellings", 200);

Sorry siria but you must accept that your system is a little peculiar configuration with win98+KernerEx, if anyone confirm this problems in other systems I can't accept that this problem really exist in KM, it isn't nothing personal against you.

Spellchecker is a Gecko feature but need a kplugin like spelltest.dll to work fully, with list of suggestion words in context menu. But spelltest.dll need to be updated to work with Gecko 1.9.x spellchecker.

K-Meleon in Spanish
The worst day of my life.
I feel like a GIF archive.

Sourceforge cvs is still down.
Could someone upload 7z of last years or newer
k-Meleon sources to a working host?

update:
online again, for at least two days

Upload of snapshot sources including current
gecko sources would still be nice.

Historic Gecko version 1.7.4 is in K-Meleon CVS.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/12/2011 05:14PM by deadlock.

Quote
JujuLand

toolkit.networkmanager.disable => true

If Firefox doesn't find network, it opens offline

Perhaps the problem may occurs under windows ??? Who knows ...
I haven't had time to test K-Meleon 1.60b2

A+

Thank you Jujulan the
toolkit.networkmanager.disable => true string works for me too on XP Home. I just downloaded and installed 1.6b2 and after building the cache it is super FFFAAAAASST! I have installed most of the plugins for 1.6 and cannot wait for more plugins to be adapted to 1.6.

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~

Quote
deadlock
Sourceforge cvs is still down.
Could someone upload 7z of last years or newer
k-Meleon sources to a working host?

update:
online again, for at least two days

Upload of snapshot sources including current
gecko sources would still be nice.

Historic Gecko version 1.7.4 is in K-Meleon CVS.

I assume that the repository does only contain new patches for C++ code.
Needed to compile with VC8!

Chrome for is still a building site (noch Baustelle). And You get SDK files when You succeed to build the GRE (ohne Patches kann ich erstellen, hab ne funzende VC8 Umgebung).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/12/2011 09:07PM by guenter.

Do you mean GRE(Gecko Runtime Engine) or XULRunner?

Replacing XUL binaries would not help if K-Meleon
sources don't use certain functions.
Who compiled 1.6b2 XULRunner 1.9.1.17pre binaries?
I don't know where to get that version.

Someone with full sources should run it in
debug mode and set a breakpoint
to "PRBool is_targetable = is_primary ||"
in nsFrameLoader.cpp to see if/when it is called.

Quote
deadlock
Do you mean GRE(Gecko Runtime Engine) or XULRunner?

Replacing XUL binaries would not help if K-Meleon
sources don't use certain functions.
Who compiled 1.6b2 XULRunner 1.9.1.17pre binaries?
I don't know where to get that version.

Someone with full sources should run it in
debug mode and set a breakpoint
to "PRBool is_targetable = is_primary ||"
in nsFrameLoader.cpp to see if/when it is called.

GRE = Gecko Runtime Engine, naturally. Yes, even I know that Mozill.org propagates Xulrunner for applications using their GREs' now. But K-Meleon project is much older than that.

No idea what should be done since I am no developer/programmer.

Currently I do not know where to get any specific GRE version but from the Mozilla servers. Especially I do not know where to get any builds with shared libraries instead of a big lib xul or a static exe.

The 1.6.bet2 GRE binaries/dll are based on Suite not Xulruner.
I assume Dorian has built the GRE1.9.1.17pre but I do not know.

To me it seems open which GRE will be the base in the future?

desga2 was so kind to elaborate so I could understand Your post about xul.dll a little:

Quote
desga2's explanation
If the problem is really the xul.dll file the problem should not happen in 1.7a2 because this use xul.dll from Firefox 3.6.13 and this include the strings (hexadecimal viewer search):
c o n t e n t -
content-primary
content-targetable

(also includes in Firefox 3.5.13 xul.dll file)

xul.dll file from Seamonkey 2.0.11 (1.6 Beta2) not include this strings.

p.s. K-Meleon is based on mfcembed which was elementary browser-only subset of a GRE based on suite. It was fully support till GRE 1.7. Until GRE 1.9.1.x it was more or less supported and the sources shipped the source to build mfcembed.exe (the ancestor of all current K-Meleon.exe - since version 0.3).

Mozilla 1.92.x sources do not ship MFCembed but only winembed.exe and sources for it now (the ancestor of K-Meleon 0.1 - 0.2).

Xukrunner is a all inclusive package - it can e.g. also support a mail client.
That is a waste of resources for a small browser app like K-Meleon.
Part of his frugal use of resources comes from using only browser components.
But probably Xulrunner.dlls and toolkit.jar is the way to go with current and future ample PC resources and the scarce dev man-hours that this project can muster.


I did/do not build any K-Meleon.exe or dll. From what I read in older Forum posts You can build the debug version from what is in CVS about K-Meleon 1.6.
To build You'd need VC8 - according to Dorian.

(Ich persönlich denke, dass VC Express 2005 und Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2 reichen könnten. / Beides gibt es noch umsonst im Netz, wenn man gut googelt.)

Sometimes I have build a GRE for updating.
Which meant that I was able to build custom GREs too.

Currently I have problems to build any GREs.

Build stops with
# error C2039...

I googled the problem to.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=2093063
which points to
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms680345%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
which points to other pages like.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa383745(v=vs.85).aspx

No idea what stops it.
I use only: Mozilla sources and Build environment (usually version 1.3) & Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2011 03:06AM by guenter.

@Guenter desga's quote first:
- because a proof by patching must have a different result.

Quote
guenter
desga2 was so kind to elaborate so I could understand Your post about xul.dll a little:
[quote='desga2's explanation']
If the problem is really the xul.dll file the problem should not happen in 1.7a2 because this use xul.dll from Firefox 3.6.13 and this include the strings (hexadecimal viewer search):
c o n t e n t -
content-primary
content-targetable

(also includes in Firefox 3.5.13 xul.dll file)

xul.dll file from Seamonkey 2.0.11 (1.6 Beta2) not include this strings.

First I thought the content code was missing -> wrong.

Difference Firefox/Seamonkey location of code code for content-primary:
Firefox packed /components/*.dll into /XUL.DLL
Seamonkey has it in /components/gklayout.dll

K-Meleon 1.54 + 1.60b2 are based on Seamonkey

Taken from my other post:
"In Gecko 1.8.1 (Firefox 2) and earlier, the type may be 'content',
'content-primary' or some other 'content-' prefix. In Gecko 1.9 only
type='content-primary' and type='content-targetable' browsers may be
targeted."

K-Meleon 1.54 has chrome 1.8.1 (no problem)
K-Meleon 1.6b2 has chrome 1.9.1 (problem)

The intention of patching firefox was to get a proof
that this code is required to get window.content
in console->viewsource.

HEX-PATCH Firefox XUL.DLL (content-primary|content-offmary)
firefox->
.console->
..viewsource (window.content==null)->
...no line numbers==no highlight of error

firefox->
..view source->
...does not open

Seamonkey Sources with chrome 1.9.1.17pre (KM 1.6b2) are here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0.12-candidates/build1/source/seamonkey-2.0.12.source.tar.bz2

@desga2
my guess is that
"static PRBool AddTreeItemToTreeOwner"
is not executed by K-Meleon sources or fails.

todo:
- did not patch/test seamonkey
- did not compile anything

Quote
guenter
Sometimes I have build a GRE for updating.
Which meant that I was able to build custom GREs too.

Currently I have problems to build any GREs.

Build stops with
# error C2039...

I googled the problem to.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=2093063
which points to
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms680345%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
which points to other pages like.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa383745(v=vs.85).aspx

No idea what stops it.
I use only: Mozilla sources and Build environment (usually version 1.3) & Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2

Your OS-Version is XPSP3 or older?
Can you post links to GRE and Mozilla sources you used?
I'll try to compile and report.

Quote
deadlock
Difference Firefox/Seamonkey location of code code for content-primary:
Firefox packed /components/*.dll into /XUL.DLL
Seamonkey has it in /components/gklayout.dll

If Firefox GRE is build with big exe or big libXul

but with
ac_add_options --disable-static
&
ac_add_options --disable-libxul

and with
ac_add_options --enable-shared

the calls should be at the same place ./components/gklayout.dll IMHO.

Quote
deadlock
Your OS-Version is XPSP3 or older?
Can you post links to GRE and Mozilla sources you used?
I'll try to compile and report.

XP SP3

Source tarballs and pulled source for FF & SM based on 1.9.2 all failed at the same place/error.

I have to go back to builds that have succeeded in the past.
Since I want to check whether my build environment has been damaged.

I currently try how far I get with latest SeaMonkey 2.0.11 source from a tarball.


p.s. If we talk about the later topic we should move this to an new thread.
It is my minority interest not general 1.6 beta development.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2011 10:59PM by guenter.

Quote
guenter
Build stops with
# error C2039...

Can you post links to sources that raised that error?

how do you move posts to another thread?

Thank You for offering to help me!

Quote
deadlock

Quote
guenter
Build stops with
# error C2039...

1.) Can you post links to sources that raised that error?

2.) how do you move posts to another thread?

1.) I downloaded one tarball again to make sure that I had no corrupted data.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.6.13/source/firefox-3.6.13.source.tar.bz2

Located the bug. The error is in my .mozconfig in combination with the SDK I use.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555485

Quote
bugzilla
error out when trying to build IPC support without Windows Vista SDK or newer

I did not want to install another Windows SDK. The combination of free "VC Express 2005" and free "Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2" can IMHO possibly build K-Meleon sources.

So I continued with:

ac_add_options --disable-ipc

Until I ran out of address space:

Quote
error message
gklayout.lib : fatal error LNK1106: invalid file or disk full: cannot seek to 0x2000D93C

The error is xplained e.g. for Instantbird builds:


Googled for a solution to extend the addresss range on my machine.


But even 3 GB were not sufficient.

I have to try with other params.


2.) You ask a moderator to click "Split Here". That function does it AFAIK.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2011 06:00PM by guenter.

Quote
JujuLand
@siria

Perhaps I'm wrong, but under Linux, with Firefox, I have some trouble with offline. Try adding this pref if it's better (it solves my problem under Linux):

toolkit.networkmanager.disable => true

If Firefox doesn't find network, it opens offline

Perhaps the problem may occurs under windows ??? Who knows ...
I haven't had time to test K-Meleon 1.60b2

A+

I am still having trouble with 1.6b2 reverting to Work Offline needing to be toggled inspite of "toolkit.networkmanager.disable string" set to "true."

The problem occurs after having used the browser while not connected to the Internet and also after cold boot and restart of the computer.

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2011 11:58PM by caktus.

@caktus,

I confirm that I have solved such problem under Linux with Firefox, but I'm not sure at all that it can solve yours.

I haven't this problem under Linux with K-Meleon 1.6b2

Sorry

A+

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Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.17pre) Gecko/20101211 Ubuntu/12.04 (precise) K-Meleon/1.6.0
Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:1.9.2.14pre) Gecko/20101219 Ubuntu/12.04 (precise) K-Meleon/1.7.0

---

Web: K-Meleon Extension Setup (French) and (English)
Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr

---

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2011 11:32PM by JujuLand.

@ JujuLand

I have tried to use Linux. Linux definitely used less system resources and is a fast OS but I could not get used to it, even though I tried to follow the instructions. I guess I am just getting old and stuck with old habits. They say "You can't teach an old dog knew tricks." But I have no problem teaching "Old dogs knew tricks." It's just me that has the problem.

Charlie

~~If it ain't broke, why screw it up?~~

@Caktus

I don't think so ..., I'm 58 and I have had not too much problems to leave Windows.
I must say that near about the moment of the decision, Windows destroyed 40 Go of an HD ... it surely helps ...

Or perhaps, I'm a cat and not a dog

A+

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Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.17pre) Gecko/20101211 Ubuntu/12.04 (precise) K-Meleon/1.6.0
Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:1.9.2.14pre) Gecko/20101219 Ubuntu/12.04 (precise) K-Meleon/1.7.0

---

Web: K-Meleon Extension Setup (French) and (English)
Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr

---

Quote
guenter

Quote
siria
where are those spellchecker settings again...? (e.g. for disabling those red underlines, if not needed)

Never heard of that possibility.

The red lines under typos in 1.6 are AFAIK from ./components/spellchk.dll.
You cannot toggle components while the browser is running.
Except maybe by a macro that renames them?

./kplugins/spelltest.dll by mark307 does not work with 1.6.
Result: SpellCheck.kmm menu items do not work.

Thanks for the info. I throw out spellchk.dll
I don't need it - KM is not *Office

Quote
luk3Z
Thanks for the info. I throw out spellchk.dll
I don't need it - KM is not *Office

You don't need delete the file you can disabled SpellChecker changed this preference in about:config url:
layout.spellcheckDefault -> 0

In next release I added an option to change it in Preferences.

K-Meleon in Spanish
The worst day of my life.
I feel like a GIF archive.

Quote
guenter
1.) I downloaded one tarball again to make sure that I had no corrupted data.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.6.13/source/firefox-3.6.13.source.tar.bz2

@ guenter:

Note that with this sources Firefox 3.6.x (Gecko 1.9.2) you are building a K-Meleon 1.7 alpha, not a K-Meleon 1.6 Beta (Gecko 1.9.1 = Firefox 3.5.x or Seamonkey 2.0.x)

K-Meleon in Spanish
The worst day of my life.
I feel like a GIF archive.

Thx desga2. Sorry that I was so confusing.

Still only luck with the Gecko 1.9.1.x not with Gecko 1.9.2.x.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2011 06:10AM by guenter.

Hi guys,

I´m just wondering is there a official release date on horizont for 1.6.0? (Wiki release´ table is not updated.)

Thank you in advance,
Jar.

@jar
K-M 1.6 final will be released when it's ready


I'd like to see an entry for flash player privacy settings in the pref panel under Privacy & Security. Something like "Manage Flash Player Settings" in General tab maybe?
Adobe does not allow to configure flash player locally. Only few ppl know where to find flash player privacy settings.

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html en-US
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/de/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html de-DE
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/es/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html es-ES
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/fr/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html fr-FR
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/pl/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html pl-PL
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/ru/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html ru-RU


A new entry under Tools > Privacy > View Data > View Flash Cookies or View LSO would be quite handy as well.

http://www.adobe.com/go/settmgr_storage_en
http://www.adobe.com/go/settmgr_storage_de
http://www.adobe.com/go/settmgr_storage_es
http://www.adobe.com/go/settmgr_storage_fr
http://www.adobe.com/go/settmgr_storage_pl
http://www.adobe.com/go/settmgr_storage_ru