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There is a tool that boost the speed of Firefox with a single click.
http://www.crystalidea.com/speedyfox
Can this apply to K-Meleon?
Hi, chrismt,
do you really feel the need for that?
You can, if you really need it, speed K-M loading with the loader.exe.
Referring to "history": could that be made faster than in K-M? (I use the R/L and L/R mouse rocking gestures for back/forward - to beat that, the previous or next page would have to load before I even hit any button.)
About " Quicker operation with cookies", I know nothing.
Cheers
SoerenB
Back again ...
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/KmmSpeedUp
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2010 09:14AM by panzer.
Hi Chrismt,
"How does it work?
Firefox (and sometimes it's add-ons) uses SQLITE databases to store lots of its settings. By the time the databases grow and Firefox starts working slowly."
K-Meleon doesn't (yet?), and that seems to be one of the reasons it's so much faster.
(By the way: would you trust a software that claims Firefox to be the fastest browser BY FAR?)
Cheers
SoerenB
Back again ...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2010 10:09AM by SoerenB.
Speedy Fox optimizes the SQLITE. I thought K-Meleon 1.6 uses SQLITE
Sorry about this
Chris
You could not know. The squlite files are present (but they are unused).
So far K-Meleon 1.6 items still uses the old system and files.
It has some pros - e.g. does not need Speedy Fox to compact sqlite data
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/2010 02:10PM by guenter.
Guenter,
I'm still uneducated when it comes to SQLite files in FireFox using the Gecko 1.9.xx engine. Below is what I've gotten so far.
FireFox uses sqlite for the following files:
content-prefs
cookies-prefs
downloads
formhistory
permissions
places
search
signons
urlclassifier3
webappsstore
place-sqlite-journal
Some of these files are integrated with each other, as in history and bookmarks. Others?
FormHistory I think (but am not sure) integrates with passwords?
Stories circulate about Firefox SQLite files increasing rapidly in size to 100s of Gigabytes. Some of this is probably due to the use of favicons and allowing FireFox to use its default settings which include checking with Google's Whitelist and Blacklist and I believe, checking in with Google's search dBase, (again not sure).
To have your history, passwords, cookies, searches intermingled (in ways I don't understand yet), seems like a privacy and/or security issue.
N
I can only go by what I see: Implemented by Dorian in the old way so far.
bookmarks.html, passwords (*.s) and history.dat.
sqlite format: cookies and permissions.
Preferences panel not yet working for cookies and permissions.
Totally up to him how he & kko want it. IMHO likely is to household with resources.
Which is the way many here like.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/2010 09:14PM by guenter.
Guenter,
Don't know about permissions, but Cookie Culler works with SQLite in FF 3.5.8, so there is way there to control your cookies, so that is a good thing for KM 3.6 I think
Good to know that bookmakrs, passwords and history use the traditional format.
N
Wouah !!!
A+
Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0
Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
I agree with Nick: 1.6 is far 2 conservative - At least jump to 2.6
Since Dorian started to implement the old formats I assume...
that we will continue to use the old version Cookie Culler that cannot do sqlite
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/28/2010 10:45PM by guenter.
Alain,
Oouch... my brain is going soft.... 3.6, though, ain't half bad!
<weak grin>
N
Guenter,
Yup, brain's definitely going soft. <aarrggghh>
If the old version of Cookie Culler continues to work, I'll be satisfied. (Even though I've turned off as much as can of SQLite in FF 3.5.8, I still see hard drive churn because of the dBase requirement to do constant writes.
N
K-Meleon development related discussions.
SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
chrismt
Date: February 26, 2010 07:32AM
There is a tool that boost the speed of Firefox with a single click.
http://www.crystalidea.com/speedyfox
Can this apply to K-Meleon?
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
SoerenB
Date: February 26, 2010 08:45AM
Hi, chrismt,
do you really feel the need for that?
You can, if you really need it, speed K-M loading with the loader.exe.
Referring to "history": could that be made faster than in K-M? (I use the R/L and L/R mouse rocking gestures for back/forward - to beat that, the previous or next page would have to load before I even hit any button.)
About " Quicker operation with cookies", I know nothing.
Cheers
SoerenB
Back again ...
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
panzer
Date: February 26, 2010 09:09AM
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/KmmSpeedUp
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2010 09:14AM by panzer.
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
SoerenB
Date: February 26, 2010 10:03AM
Hi Chrismt,
"How does it work?
Firefox (and sometimes it's add-ons) uses SQLITE databases to store lots of its settings. By the time the databases grow and Firefox starts working slowly."
K-Meleon doesn't (yet?), and that seems to be one of the reasons it's so much faster.
(By the way: would you trust a software that claims Firefox to be the fastest browser BY FAR?)
Cheers
SoerenB
Back again ...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2010 10:09AM by SoerenB.
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
chrismt
Date: February 27, 2010 11:38AM
Speedy Fox optimizes the SQLITE. I thought K-Meleon 1.6 uses SQLITE
Sorry about this
Chris
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
guenter
Date: February 27, 2010 12:58PM
You could not know. The squlite files are present (but they are unused).
So far K-Meleon 1.6 items still uses the old system and files.
It has some pros - e.g. does not need Speedy Fox to compact sqlite data
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/2010 02:10PM by guenter.
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: February 27, 2010 05:51PM
Quote
guenter
You could not know. The sqlite files are present (but they are unused).
So far K-Meleon 1.6 items still uses the old system and files.
It has some pros - e.g. does not need Speedy Fox to compact sqlite data
Guenter,
I'm still uneducated when it comes to SQLite files in FireFox using the Gecko 1.9.xx engine. Below is what I've gotten so far.
FireFox uses sqlite for the following files:
content-prefs
cookies-prefs
downloads
formhistory
permissions
places
search
signons
urlclassifier3
webappsstore
place-sqlite-journal
Some of these files are integrated with each other, as in history and bookmarks. Others?
FormHistory I think (but am not sure) integrates with passwords?
Stories circulate about Firefox SQLite files increasing rapidly in size to 100s of Gigabytes. Some of this is probably due to the use of favicons and allowing FireFox to use its default settings which include checking with Google's Whitelist and Blacklist and I believe, checking in with Google's search dBase, (again not sure).
To have your history, passwords, cookies, searches intermingled (in ways I don't understand yet), seems like a privacy and/or security issue.
N
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
guenter
Date: February 27, 2010 09:13PM
I can only go by what I see: Implemented by Dorian in the old way so far.
bookmarks.html, passwords (*.s) and history.dat.
sqlite format: cookies and permissions.
Preferences panel not yet working for cookies and permissions.
Totally up to him how he & kko want it. IMHO likely is to household with resources.
Which is the way many here like.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/2010 09:14PM by guenter.
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: February 28, 2010 06:24PM
Quote
guenter
I can only go by what I see: Implemented by Dorian in the old way so far.
bookmarks.html, passwords (*.s) and history.dat.
sqlite format: cookies and permissions.
Preferences panel not yet working for cookies and permissions.
Totally up to him how he & kko want it. IMHO likely is to household with resources.
Which is the way many here like.
Guenter,
Don't know about permissions, but Cookie Culler works with SQLite in FF 3.5.8, so there is way there to control your cookies, so that is a good thing for KM 3.6 I think
Good to know that bookmakrs, passwords and history use the traditional format.
N
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
JujuLand
Date: February 28, 2010 08:16PM
Quote
ndebord
a good thing for KM 3.6 I think
Wouah !!!
A+
Mozilla/5.0 (x11; U; Linux x86_64; fr-FR; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Ubuntu/12.04 K-Meleon/76.0
Web: http://jujuland.pagesperso-orange.fr/
Mail : alain [dot] aupeix [at] wanadoo [dot] fr
Ubuntu 12.04 - Gramps 3.4.9 - Harbour 3.2.0 - Hwgui 2.20-3 - K-Meleon 76.0 rc
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
guenter
Date: February 28, 2010 10:40PM
Quote
JujuLand
Quote
ndebord
a good thing for KM 3.6 I think
Wouah !!!
I agree with Nick: 1.6 is far 2 conservative - At least jump to 2.6
Quote
ndebord
Good to know that bookmakrs, passwords and history use the traditional format.
Since Dorian started to implement the old formats I assume...
that we will continue to use the old version Cookie Culler that cannot do sqlite
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/28/2010 10:45PM by guenter.
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: March 01, 2010 01:28AM
Quote
JujuLand
Quote
ndebord
a good thing for KM 3.6 I think
Wouah !!!
A+
Alain,
Oouch... my brain is going soft.... 3.6, though, ain't half bad!
<weak grin>
N
Re: SpeedyFox for K-Meleon 1.6
Posted by:
ndebord
Date: March 01, 2010 01:31AM
Quote
guenter
Quote
JujuLand
Quote
ndebord
a good thing for KM 3.6 I think
Wouah !!!
I agree with Nick: 1.6 is far 2 conservative - At least jump to 2.6
Quote
ndebord
Good to know that bookmakrs, passwords and history use the traditional format.
Since Dorian started to implement the old formats I assume...
that we will continue to use the old version Cookie Culler that cannot do sqlite
Guenter,
Yup, brain's definitely going soft. <aarrggghh>
If the old version of Cookie Culler continues to work, I'll be satisfied. (Even though I've turned off as much as can of SQLite in FF 3.5.8, I still see hard drive churn because of the dBase requirement to do constant writes.
N
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