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siria
Hi guys, just a few quick questions :-)
1) Is there a way to have a lower menu bar (File/Edit/etc.)? I like to put the privbar beside it, but as soon as its set to "display menu bar as toolbar" it grows to 16px height. Preferably a setting in the skin folder...
2) Is there a way to show the tab bar in fullscreen mode, so that at the bottom there's no taskbar etc, only the tabs? Those netbooks nowadays are so extremley flat
3) How does one put a URL on a button, in the toolbar.cfg?? And can it open automatically in a new tab/window? So far I've only found a workaround via hotlinks, but that doesn't work if someone tries my skin and has different hotlinks than me ;-) (Example: Button with the translation menu on right click, but direct link to translate.google.com on left-click, to input own text)
4) I suppose there is no way to get to stuff like the F2-fullscreen or F2-javascript settings when right-clicking on a button, or is it..?
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siria
But didn't know that rebarmenu thing - COOL!! Had completely given up hope for left-click menus after first switching tests on buttons. So it's actually possible, really great! :-))
Most menus seem to work that way, but after half a night of struggling again it seems restricted to "unvariable" menus....
It can't seem to correctly display variable stuff, like a changing windows list in View/Windows. It's funny also with switching User agent. With the menu only left it doesn't show the check marks. With the menu only right you can see which agent is enabled. With the same menu on BOTH sides, they both work! It's like the "left" menu can only echo what the "right" menu showed before. And it's possible to change the user-agent on the left side, but at the next left-click it still shows the "old" user-agent. Only after right-clicking again the browser shows the updated menu. Which of course will now be echoed left too ;-)
So, basically, the trick with the rebar-menus seems to work fine as long as those menus never change, like page-info or translations, but "hangs" with the windows list or the check marks in the user agent menu.
Still, it's already nice to have "normal" menus working now :-)
E.g. my translation button is now set to: rebarmenu(&Translation)|En&coding
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siria
Alas, as usual, while struggling and solving one problem, others come up *sigh*
So, another question:
5) Defining one button smaller than the others in a toolbar, doesnt seem to work?
Example: Would like to add a small "arrow down" button at the end of privbar, so that every newbie can easily stumble upon the whole Privacy Menu, without even looking for it. This other button is on another bmp-line in my skin, and while the icon is shown correctly, the particular button size is completely ignored:
# PrivSettings(16,11){
# rebarmenu(&Privacy)
It's just as broad as all the other privbar buttons too :-(
Hey, learning something new everyday - this is cool again!! Very nice look without the grid lines.... and even saves 2px per line, LOL! For the last years I had a beautiful sunset background, and quite often wished that stupid grid could be hidden, but never really assumed it possible. And now even simple gradients look nicer that way. Somehow smoother, quite elegant... :-))Quote
jsnj
kmeleon.display.toolbars_line
Set it to false and lock the toolbars.
Well, that's a great trick for single computer, but the effect is lost when posting the skin for others to download. Every time I change even the slightest thing the toolbars wander where they feel like, and so would this single buttonQuote
jsnj
It basically centers the smaller button within the bigger toolbar. You'll have to create a separate toolbar with just that menu button and drag it next to the privacy bar.
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siria
And the same with the claim that buttons without images would show up as text buttons. Nothing shows up at all without images! :-( That's definitely misleading, I'll remove this from the .cfg *grmpf*
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siria
OH... :O That works!! Thanx!
Just how does one know that, have never seen that?! Difficult to remember without having read it at least once ;-)
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siria
Lets see, but now it gets more complicated, perhaps there's also new hope to get image placeholders to show...? Never see any :-( Whether images are on or off or loading a page, and I've checked in F2 "image placeholders for missing images" and also tried the other two settings in the past. Took a look in about:config for "image" stuff. No chance. May have messed it some time, well possible, just how...??
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siria
Also there must be some trick to get that favorites-buttons-checkmark to work... No matter the setting in F2, named "Show button icons", that folder icon only seems to depend on the toolbar.cfg, if there the buttons are hidden or not. I thought it had worked some time in the past, but not sure...
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jsnj
no means none. It doesn't say "some".
again "any" doesn't mean some.
Oh, that sounds promising - Great! Yes I'm sure many people are scared off from customizing the moment they realize this isn't quite as easy as in other modern apps. So, what could this mean.... while being easier to configure via a macro, will there still be the same cfg-files "under the hood"? (modifiable manually I mean )Quote
jsnj
As soon as a couple bugs related to "macro-ized" toolbars & buttons are fixed and available, an easier way to customize toolbars can be implemented through macros. The current method of text editing is antiquated and too tricky.
It was a folder-icon in klassic skin, in Phoenity it's a star. Between "Home" and "History"-Icons. Same with the hotlist settings. So, either I messed it again somehow, or maybe it's again slightly outdated win98se, or maybe KM...Quote
jsnjNot sure I understand. Both "Show Button Icons" & "Show a button to open favorites menu" work for me. Which folder icon are you referring to?Quote
siria
7) Also there must be some trick to get that favorites-buttons-checkmark to work... No matter the setting in F2, named "Show button icons", that folder icon only seems to depend on the toolbar.cfg, if there the buttons are hidden or not. I thought it had worked some time in the past, but not sure...
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jsnj
Those options for the favorites: Show a button to open favorites menu and show button icons are specific to the favorites(Links) bar, not the favorites button on the main bar. That button is like any other in toolbars.cfg. It has to be there and uncommented to appear.
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jsnj
Rather than tooltips, I think a Tips & Tricks link to an html page like the updated commands list, under help, would be better.
Okay, that explains it Never use the links bar, so never noticed.Quote
jsnj
Those options for the favorites ... are specific to the favorites(Links) bar, not the favorites button on the main bar. That button is like any other in toolbars.cfg. It has to be there and uncommented to appear.
Yep, that's exactly the problem (along with partly being being outdated). And there's no search function on the site! Or perhaps a pdf to download and search in it... I know one can use google to search the site, but that's not really handy. (That said, I can't do anything about it either ;-)Quote
caktus
"Tips & Tricks" are scattered though out the wiki's. It would be nice if it were easier to locate them all including the unofficial items.
I am not sure I understand. Do you wish for a button (click) to execute a macro or do you need a button to be defined by a macro?Quote
siria
9) There is no way for something like "%ifmacro xyz" to define a toolbar button, or is it...? Only buttons for plugins seem to work optionally in the toolbar.cfg? Or any trick...?
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siria
Another skinning question, although with very little hope:
9) There is no way for something like "%ifmacro xyz" to define a toolbar button, or is it...? Only buttons for plugins seem to work optionally in the toolbar.cfg? Or any trick...? The prob is, I've added a couple new buttons, and a few are for macros. So far it works, but if I post that skin and another user downloads it but doesn't have the same macros, he'll see buttons that don't work. Would be handy to have a way to automatically disable those buttons, for which there's no macro installed, but still show the others...
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siria
Ah, really a pity. Frankly, I have already 2-4 new toolbars, and slowly it starts getting rather confusing to find specific ones in View-Toolbars ;-)
Would it make sense to post this in improvement requests...?
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JamesD
If having the macro is required, then have the macro create the toolbar and button.