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no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: mdunkan
Date: October 08, 2008 06:41AM

Jujuland, when do you give us a portable 1.5 kmeleon?
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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Date: October 11, 2008 03:12AM

No, I haven't made a Portable version of K-Meleon 1?5, because of the modifications of the way he profiles are handled. I didn't know if the dll I used was always usable.

And the time has passed and passed...

I haven't had much time to make it , and I'm also a little late with my new extension version.

I'm now very busy, and I haven't too much free time...

Sorry,

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: desga2
Date: October 11, 2008 05:53AM

I don't think that a K-Meleon 1.5 portable version is needed.
You can convert standard K-Meleon 1.5 in portable easilly.

1) Download 7z file (K-Meleon without installer), and 7z localization package if you like it.
2) Unzip 7z files in your USB memory.
3) Download or copy from your computer the needed libraries (msvcp71.dll, msvcr71.dll) to your K-Meleon folder in your USB memory.
4) Create a "profile.ini" file in USB memory K-Meleon folder.
5) Now start K-Meleon from USB memory only and config; Cache, History, Cookies.

In cache, uncheck "cache files on disk" option, and set "cache files in memory" to 20 or 30 MB, optional: you can uncheck also "cache website icons on disk" option.

In history, set "Keep a list of all pages visited..." option to 0 (zero) days.

Set others privacy options as cookies and remember login data as you like it.

K-Meleon in Spanish



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/07/2008 07:08PM by desga2.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: guenter
Date: October 11, 2008 05:45PM

You will use xpcom-core.dll that is compiled with VC 6 for the same GRE version (VC 6 is the default compiler of current SeaMonkeys = where You get it - K-meleon uses the faster VC 7.1) to prevent that the USB version creates and empty dummy K-Meleon profile folder in %apdata% folder on startup.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: Mec94
Date: October 12, 2008 11:42PM

Hi,


What do you think about this :

http://portableapps.com/node/13328

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: guenter
Date: October 13, 2008 05:02PM

Portable Apps K-Meleon 1.5 works ok (=no problems under ME) on a short test.
Guess You could expected that smiling smiley

K-Meleon is freeware under GPL - anyone that points to K-Meleon credits & keeps the licence is welcome to use.

p.s. Portable Apps K-Meleon 1.5 creates a dummy folder under ME. See my comment on dll to use. Alternatively they could re-use code from portable Firefox setup that sanitiizes the folder.

The preventing or sanitzing of the dummy folder is rarely needed.

alain's 1.1.3 with GRE updated would just as save & covers tracks better...
K-Meleon 1.5 is more modern & that has merrits also.

You can find GRE updates for any K-Meleon 1.1.x (1.5 uses the same) easily.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/13/2008 05:07PM by guenter.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: soccerfan
Date: October 14, 2008 03:44AM

guenter Wrote:
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> You will use xpcom-core.dll that is compiled with
> VC 6 for the same GRE version (VC 6 is the default
> compiler of current SeaMonkeys = where You get it
> - K-meleon uses the faster VC 7.1) to prevent that
> the USB version creates and empty dummy K-Meleon
> profile folder in %apdata% folder on startup.

guenter, could you please provide a link to download
the xpcom-core.dll to make a portable k-meleon 1.5.
Many thanks for your suggestions so far.

soccerfan

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: mdunkan
Date: October 14, 2008 05:51AM

desga2 Wrote:
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> I don't think that a K-Meleon 1.5 portable version
> is needed.
> You can convert standard K-Meleon 1.5 in portable
> easilly.
>
> 1) Download 7z file (K-Meleon without installer),
> and 7z localization package if you like it.
> 2) Unzip 7z files in your USB memory.
> 3) Download or copy from your computer the needed
> libraries (msvcp71.dll, msvcr71.dll) to your
> K-Meleon folder in your USB memory.
> 4) Create a "profile.ini" file in USB memory
> K-Meleon folder.
> 5) Now start K-Meleon from USB memory only and
> config; Cache, History, Cookies.
>
> In cache, uncheck "cache files on disk" option,
> and set "cache files in memory" to 20 or 30 MB,
> optional: you can uncheck also "cache website
> icons on disk" option.
>
> In history, set "Keep a list of all pages
> visited..." option to 0 (zero) days.
>
> Set others privacy options as cookies and remember
> login data as you like it.

I like this option too much.
Thankyou jujuland and guenter too.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: guenter
Date: October 14, 2008 11:26AM

It is not vital to have the latest ( no security problem known for that file ) - You can re-use alain's old one or download a SeaMonkey that has an 1.8.1.17 GRE and take a new file from there.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/14/2008 11:27AM by guenter.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: soccerfan
Date: October 14, 2008 08:04PM

guenter Wrote:
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> It is not vital to have the latest ( no security
> problem known for that file ) - You can re-use
> alain's old one or download a SeaMonkey that has
> an 1.8.1.17 GRE and take a new file from there.


I'll start with alain's file from 1.1.3 portable
(because I already use it). Thanks guenter.

soccerfan

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: c. wilson
Date: October 26, 2008 08:26PM

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desga2
I don't think that a K-Meleon 1.5 portable version is needed.
You can convert standard K-Meleon 1.5 in portable easilly.

1) Download 7z file (K-Meleon without installer), and 7z localization package if you like it.
2) Unzip 7z files in your USB memory.
3) Download or copy from your computer the needed libraries (msvcp71.dll, msvcr71.dll) to your K-Meleon folder in your USB memory.
4) Create a "profile.ini" file in USB memory K-Meleon folder.
5) Now start K-Meleon from USB memory only and config; Cache, History, Cookies.

In cache, uncheck "cache files on disk" option, and set "cache files in memory" to 20 or 30 MB, optional: you can uncheck also "cache website icons on disk" option.

In history, set "Keep a list of all pages visited..." option to 0 (zero) days.

Set others privacy options as cookies and remember login data as you like it.

I think that it's not to easy to convert a standard K-Meleon 1.5 in portable. I followed all steps you have said but two folders are created in C: within the documents and setting folder\user(...) in two different locations. Jujuland version creates no folders in C:, always using the program from a USB unit.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: desga2
Date: October 26, 2008 09:50PM

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c. wilson
I think that it's not to easy to convert a standard K-Meleon 1.5 in portable. I followed all steps you have said but two folders are created in C: within the documents and setting folder\user(...) in two different locations. Jujuland version creates no folders in C:, always using the program from a USB unit.

Yes, it's easy! This folders are creted by default, but it not used, by K-Meleon.

Read the before Guenter's post in this thread:

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guenter
You will use xpcom-core.dll that is compiled with VC 6 for the same GRE version (VC 6 is the default compiler of current SeaMonkeys = where You get it - K-meleon uses the faster VC 7.1) to prevent that the USB version creates and empty dummy K-Meleon profile folder in %apdata% folder on startup.

If you don't like that K-Meleon create this empty dummy folders you can changed xpcom-core.dll file.

K-Meleon in Spanish



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2008 09:54PM by desga2.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: guenter
Date: October 26, 2008 10:24PM

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c. wilson
Jujuland version creates no folders in C:,

For that alain used a file created with Visual C 6.
You can use alain's xpcom-core.dll - and test it.

By default %apdata% is on c: smiling smiley

The K-Meleon GRE is by default compiled with the faster VC 7.1 and that creates the file that has the habbit that You observe and do not want. & No problem even for an end user DAU like me tongue sticking out smiley to download and mix SeaMonkey 1.1.12 files which are created with VC6 with K-Meleon's 1.5.1 files which are created with VC 7.1.


p.s. We mix files from similar GRE versions but different VC compilers for updates since 2004 surprised smiley.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2008 10:33PM by guenter.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: desga2
Date: October 26, 2008 11:07PM

I uploaded to my site this xpcom-core.zip file:
xpcom-core.zip

- This zip file include two folders:

firefox_protable => with xpcom-core.dll file from Firefox 2.0.0.17 Portable.
seamonkey => with xpcom-core.dll from Seamonkey 1.1.12.

Can you tried with this files if this empty folders are created?

K-Meleon in Spanish



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2008 11:22PM by desga2.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: guenter
Date: October 27, 2008 12:46AM

@desgas2 - thx for upload!

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desga2
firefox_protable => with xpcom-core.dll file from Firefox 2.0.0.17 Portable.
seamonkey => with xpcom-core.dll from Seamonkey 1.1.12.

Can you tried with this files if this empty folders are created?

Both files make no empty folder (You can easily check with any K-Meleon when You use a profile.ini = like me smiling smiley ) and have no K-Meleon Profile in %apdata% ( else back up Profile folder = when You normaly use/have a profile there because You have installed with Multy User Support before You delete the folder for the test smiling smiley ).

The file from a normal Firefox 2.0.0.17 will also make no empty folder, I tried grinning smiley

Build instructions said: Firefox 2 is by default compiled with VC 6.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2008 05:49AM by guenter.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: roger
Date: November 02, 2008 10:19PM

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desga2
I uploaded to my site this xpcom-core.zip file:
xpcom-core.zip

- This zip file include two folders:

firefox_protable => with xpcom-core.dll file from Firefox 2.0.0.17 Portable.
seamonkey => with xpcom-core.dll from Seamonkey 1.1.12.

Can you tried with this files if this empty folders are created?

I tried to open with 7-Zip, but archive would not open.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 02, 2008 10:37PM

File is OK. I downloaded and tested with 7-zip.
Try to download again, your downloaded file is incomplete.

K-Meleon in Spanish

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: roger
Date: November 06, 2008 06:28AM

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desga2
File is OK. I downloaded and tested with 7-zip.
Try to download again, your downloaded file is incomplete.

I downloaded using broadband cable and dialup on 2 different days with IE 7 and Firefox 3.0.3 and I get 'File is invalid or corrupted' when opening with 7-zip 4.60 beta.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 07, 2008 12:38AM

File was created with WinZip 8.1 and tested after with 7-zip 4.57.
Guenter can download and unzip it correctly without problems and I too.

I upload it to other server: Try download it from this server.

K-Meleon in Spanish

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: JamesD
Date: November 07, 2008 02:34AM

I just put KM 1.5.1 on a USB stick. It takes approxamately 18 megs of space. I erased setdefault.exe and loader.exe because I did not think they would be needed on portable version. I also deleted extra skins.

What is it with the libraries (msvcp71.dll, msvcr71.dll)? I went to copy them as directed and found 13 sets of them on my computer.

Does not seem to be a way to use favorites from the stick. Guess I will make a Opera hotlist for those items I really need to carry with me. I suppose I could put the ten most useful URLs into hotlinks.

Only other problem is the speed of the USB system. KM loads real slow from the stick.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 07, 2008 03:23AM

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JamesD
Guess I will make a Opera hotlist for those items I really need to carry with me.

Why use you Opera hotlist instead Netscape Bookmarks?

K-Meleon in Spanish

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: JamesD
Date: November 07, 2008 06:48AM

Forum has many items about problems with bookmarks. I see very few with hotlist. I have looked at both files and the hotlist looks easier to understand.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: roger
Date: November 07, 2008 09:58AM

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desga2
File was created with WinZip 8.1 and tested after with 7-zip 4.57.
Guenter can download and unzip it correctly without problems and I too.

I upload it to other server: Try download it from this server.

Thanks for the other upload. File downloaded and unzipped ok, no problems.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: roger
Date: November 07, 2008 10:12AM

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JamesD
I just put KM 1.5.1 on a USB stick. It takes approxamately 18 megs of space. I erased setdefault.exe and loader.exe because I did not think they would be needed on portable version. I also deleted extra skins.

What is it with the libraries (msvcp71.dll, msvcr71.dll)? I went to copy them as directed and found 13 sets of them on my computer.

Does not seem to be a way to use favorites from the stick. Guess I will make a Opera hotlist for those items I really need to carry with me. I suppose I could put the ten most useful URLs into hotlinks.

Only other problem is the speed of the USB system. KM loads real slow from the stick.

Did you format your USB stick with NTFS or FAT 32? I read several forums on the advantages/ disadvantages of each format. My old laptop doesn't have hi-speed USB 2.0 ports, has only the slower USB ports.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: JamesD
Date: November 07, 2008 11:39AM

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Roger
Did you format your USB stick with NTFS or FAT 32? I read several forums on the advantages/ disadvantages of each format. My old laptop doesn't have hi-speed USB 2.0 ports, has only the slower USB ports.

It is FAT. I think that is the way it was when I purchased it. I don't remember doing a format.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: desga2
Date: November 07, 2008 09:28PM

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JamesD
Forum has many items about problems with bookmarks. I see very few with hotlist. I have looked at both files and the hotlist looks easier to understand.

I disagree. Things are not always as they seem. I have never had problems with Netscape Bookmarks. And if people haven't problems with Hotlist Opera plugin is because almost nobody uses it.

The Netscape plugin is better supported and maintained that the old Opera plugin.

K-Meleon in Spanish

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: c. wilson
Date: November 13, 2008 12:23AM

I was ill last week. I'm in my job place now. When I arrive home I'll make Desga & Guenter steps to get my K-Meleon portable 1.5.1. Thank you.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: jt
Date: December 02, 2008 04:51AM

Any new news on a portable version that does not drop folders onto the Documents and Settings of the computer used?

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: guenter
Date: December 02, 2008 01:08PM

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jt
Any new news on a portable version that does not drop folders onto the Documents and Settings of the computer used?

No.

But if You read this thread You can create it Yourself.


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desgas2

The unwanted creation of data folders on PC is avoided by

firefox... xpcom-core.dll file from Firefox 2.0.0.17.
seamonkey... xpcom-core.dll from Seamonkey 1.1.12....

Both files make no empty folder (You can easily check with any K-Meleon when You use a profile.ini = like me smiling smiley ) and have no K-Meleon Profile in %apdata%

Needed files were uploaded by desgas2.

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Re: no longer kmeleon portable 1.5?
Posted by: dreamz
Date: December 06, 2008 09:17AM

i've tried several versions of the file (firefox portable, seamonkey, the old pocket k-meleon), but all create either an empty k-meleon folder or a mozilla folder. any ideas?

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