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Affichage page très long
Posted by: delagui
Date: October 31, 2014 07:36PM

Bonjour

J'ai installé sur mon pc avec W XP k-méléon 74.0
l'affichage de la page d'accueil est très long alors qu'avec des versions antérieures, c'était très rapide: est-ce normal?
je voulais nettoyer le cache mais je ne sais pas comment y aller et où le trouver

Merci de votre aide

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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: guenter
Date: October 31, 2014 08:13PM

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delagui
Bonjour

J'ai installé sur mon pc avec W XP k-méléon 74.0
l'affichage de la page d'accueil est très long alors qu'avec des versions antérieures, c'était très rapide: est-ce normal?
je voulais nettoyer le cache mais je ne sais pas comment y aller et où le trouver

Merci de votre aide

Bonsoir et bienvenu!

Times have changed - browsers are waiting for adverisment and behaviour tracker pages often now.

You can improve the speed if You install a addblocking extension.

Addblock plus works and BluHell partly works (needs less resources).

Cache F2 Reasau/Performance Cache ... Effacer?

Autrement: Affichage -> Barres d'outils - activer -> Confidentialite - serrer Cache

Greetings from Germany

p.s. Ici jujuland le traducteur de K-Meleon Francais ecrit justement.

http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,130551,130571#msg-130571



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2014 08:25PM by guenter.

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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: delag
Date: October 31, 2014 08:29PM

Thank!

ADP pour bloquer publicité, vous connaissez?
comment installer sur K-meleon?

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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: siria
Date: October 31, 2014 08:39PM

Quelle page d'accueil - une certaine?

Peut-etre il aide aussi de creer un nouveau profil:
Edition > Gerer les profils > Demander au lancement
Alors fermer KM et l'ouvrir de nouveau, choisir un "nouveau" profil.

Le view profil n'est pas perdu, on peux choisir un des profiles chaque fois qu'on ouvre KM de nouveau.

Ouf... pourrais-tu aussi lire en anglais? ;-)

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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: JujuLand
Date: October 31, 2014 09:04PM

Humm,

Siria, I don't know if you haved learned for french, but it's not too bad ... and you'll probably be able to continue answering in french ...

A+



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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: delag
Date: October 31, 2014 09:05PM

I speak ( or write) not well english

I will come back to-morrow

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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: JujuLand
Date: October 31, 2014 09:08PM

Si tu as trop de problème avec l'anglais, parles en français. Le principal est qu'on puisse t'aider.

Bon, ceci dit, il y a plus de english spoken que de français...

ADP, c'est AdBlock+, et on peut l'installer sur K-Meleon, voir le forum Extensions

A+



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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: siria
Date: October 31, 2014 10:02PM

Your job, Alain grinning smiley
Must say I don't even have an idea what the prob is, if all pages are so sluggish or only a specific one? But often old profiles are the culprit, and he did use older versions, so can't harm to test with a new profile...
Installing AB+ seems already highly complicated in english to explain, and even harder to understand. No chance with additional language probs. And if it would help at all is a whole different question. Oh well, I have no clue how it's installed myself, never needed it yet on KM74 :cool:
And did he ever try with the native, far simpler adblocker?
Or did he try disabling the FF compat mode?? There were a few people recently who said KM is much faster without it, at least on some major pages!

That's all nothing any of us non-natives could explain. It's a major struggle with even the most simple tech terms already, for example what in the world is "restart" in french?? Just way too hard, and if his english is so bad, only you can even try to explain something as complicated as AB+ installation - good luck ;-) But I do suspect the prob lies elsewhere, somewhere in the configuration. Hm, and what was it about startup-cache that was mentioned so often? Really I don't know what I'm doing here, having no clue myself ;-P

Ah, completely forgot: either you or Dorian!! smiling smiley



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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 01, 2014 08:32AM

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delag
I speak ( or write) not well english

I will come back to-morrow

If You post in French and can read my answer in English it is sufficiant.

It is too hard for me to translate long texts to French.
The others can do a better French translation.

1.) Drop this into ./k-meleon74/macros/

http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/file.php?9,file=822,filename=xpinstallext.kmm

or go about:config and toggle kmeleon.install_firefox_extension to true.


2.) Create folder ./k-meleon74/browser/extensions

3.) Get newest addblock plus from its firefox page. It works for K-Meleon!
Maybe use another browser to download.

4.) Rename xpi to

{d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d}.xpi

5.) place it

./k-meleon74/browser/extensions/{d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d}.xpi

6.) Restart K-Meleon go URL about:addons open addblock preferences it will be French

7.) import block list.

p.s. IMHO You can reuse old macros for old version from k-meleon extension page
and use together with new addblock. Maybe try this as experiment.

# K-Meleon Macros (http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?id=MacroLanguage)

# ---------- adblockplus(special update-no k-plugin)----------------

$_tool_path=getfolder(RootFolder)."\\Tools";
$adblockplus_enabled="extensions.adblockplus.enabled";
$adblockplus_Firstrun="extensions.adblockplus.firstrun";
$adblockplus_FlashJava="extensions.adblockplus.frameobjects";
$adblockplus_placeholders="extensions.adblockplus.fastcollapse";
$adblockplus_Count="extensions.adblockplus.savestats";
$adblockplus_EditSite="extensions.adblockplus.EditSite";
$adblockplus_BlockItem="extensions.adblockplus.Blockitem";
$adblockplus_BlockitemType="extensions.adblockplus.BlockitemType";


adblockplusFilters{
$OpenURL="chrome://adblockplus/content/ui/filters.xul";
&OpenURL_InNewWindow;

}

adblockplusItems{

setpref(STRING,$adblockplus_EditSite, $URL);
open("about:adblockplus");
}

abDisable{
menuchecked=getpref(BOOL,$adblockplus_enabled);
togglepref(BOOL,$adblockplus_enabled);
$abstatusbar=sub("%s",getpref(BOOL,$adblockplus_enabled)?"disabled":"enabled","adblock plus %s");
statusbar($abstatusbar);
}

adOptionsFlashJava{
menuchecked=getpref(BOOL,$adblockplus_FlashJava);
togglepref(BOOL,$adblockplus_FlashJava);
}
adOptionsplaceholders{
menuchecked=getpref(BOOL,$adblockplus_placeholders);
togglepref(BOOL,$adblockplus_placeholders);
}

adOptionsCount{
menuchecked=getpref(BOOL,$adblockplus_Count);
togglepref(BOOL,$adblockplus_Count);
}

adblockplus_image{
menugrayed=(hostname($URL)=="");
setpref(STRING,$adblockplus_BlockItem, $ImageURL);
setpref(STRING,$adblockplus_BlockitemType, "image");
$OpenURL="chrome://adblockplus/content/ui/KMcomposer.xul";
&OpenURL_InNewWindow;
}

_adblockplus_BuildMenu{
setmenu("&Tools",popup,"Adblock Plus",6);
setmenu("Adblock Plus",macro,"Enable everywhere",abDisable);
setmenu("Adblock Plus",macro,"Filter preferences",adblockplusFilters);
setmenu("Adblock Plus",separator,-1);

setmenu("Adblock Plus",macro,"Live Block items on this page",adblockplusItems);
setmenu("Adblock Plus",separator,-1);
setmenu("Adblock Plus",popup,"Options",6);
setmenu("Options",macro,"Show tabs on Flash and Java",adOptionsFlashJava);
setmenu("Options",separator,-1);
setmenu("Options",macro, "Show placeholders of blocked elements",adOptionsplaceholders);
setmenu("Options",separator,-1);
setmenu("Options",macro,"Count filter hits",adOptionsCount);

setmenu(ImageProperties,macro,"Adblock Image",adblockplus_image);


}

adblockplus_BuildToolbar{
$abptip=_("Toggle Adblockplus|Right-click for Options");
pluginmsg(toolbars,"AddToolbar","Adblock Plus,16,16","");
pluginmsg(toolbars,"AddButton","Adblock Plus,adblockplus,macros(abDisable),Adblock Plus,".$abptip.",16,16,adblockplus.bmp[1],adblockplus.bmp[0]","");
}

adblockplus_sync{
$__c="CheckButton"; $__m=",macros(pref_Toggle";
$__toolbar="Adblock Plus";
pluginmsg(toolbars,$__c,$__toolbar.$__m."Popups),".(getpref(BOOL,$adblockplus_enabled)?1:0));
}

adblockplus_firstrun{
$abfirstrun=getpref(BOOL,$adblockplus_Firstrun);
if($abfirstrun){
setpref(BOOL,$adblockplus_Firstrun, false);
$OpenURL="chrome://adblockplus/content/ui/firstRun.xul";
&OpenURL_InNewWindow;

}
}


$OnInit=$OnInit."_adblockplus_BuildMenu;";
$OnStartup=$OnStartup."adblockplus_firstrun;";
$OnSetup=$OnSetup."adblockplus_BuildToolbar;";
# ---------------------------------------------------------------
$macroModules=$macroModules."adblockplus;";



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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: gordon451
Date: November 02, 2014 03:53AM

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guenter
or go about:config and toggle kmeleon.install_firefox_extension to true.

I can't find that in my config. Mine has
xpinstall.enabled;false
Are we on the same page here? Or does "xpinstallext.kmm" change the config entry?

Gordon.

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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: siria
Date: November 02, 2014 05:44AM

What a kmm does you can check by reading inside it.

But I don't have the slightest clue what those two prefs really do??

Reading on mozilla sites, the "xpinstall" pref only seems to prevent the *installation of NEW addons*, and doesn't even have any effect when installing from about:addons, there it's ignored completely (unless was changed again in later FF versions, no idea). And if not existing, it is "true" by default. It sounds like just an additional security block for extra-cautious users only...
But what does that mean for manually dropping a xpi in the folders??
Are any automatic KM actions needed afterwards that somehow change a registry entry or something similar hidden inside KM??

And dorian had written in the 74RCC thread:
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?8,127809,128529#msg-128529
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dorian
I've added a pref: kmeleon.install_firefox_extension. If set to true, kmeleon will identify itself as firefox so you can install addons (for some reason the "add to firefox button" does not work, you have to copy the link in the url bar). Of course, this is only to help testing not for real usage
Does it only change the UA somehow? Or another pref, like vendor etc.?
And again, does that only have an effect when a NEW xpi is found, possibly triggering some hidden config action, or is it needed every time the browser starts?
And george has written something that it enables the install of Friefox Extensions without Editing the install.rdf of the XPI file?

And what about xpinstall.whitelist? By default it is restricted to addons.mozilla.org, but probably only for direct installation? Is there any influence on manual installations like in KM? Does it affect downloads?

Or any critical influence from the other prefs that pop up in about:config when filtering for xpi / addons / extensions?

And then there's all that confusing manifest stuff, extension manifests and a global chrome.manifest is explained on kmext.sf.net
And this install.rdf for every pref, that sometimes keeps its original random number as ID OR sometimes can have kmeleon@ as ID, and is that mandatory to be the same as the xpi-name or not...



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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 02, 2014 06:09AM

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gordon451
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guenter
or go about:config and toggle kmeleon.install_firefox_extension to true.

I can't find that in my config. Mine has
xpinstall.enabled;false
Are we on the same page here? Or does "xpinstallext.kmm" change the config entry?

Gordon.

Toogle xpinstall.enabled;false. That is a Firefox/Mozilla pref.
Then You can edit install.rdf to add K-Meleon's ID and install I think.

Yes the kmm creates kmeleon.install_firefox_extension and offers a menue item to toggle in Edit IMHO. I think JamesD made that intentionally to help DAUs like me that forget things. http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?9,128836,129085#msg-129085 grinning smiley


p.s. I forgot to mention that You have to create meleon.install_firefox_extension and set it to true.

Guess I am here for too long and should go. Since I take too much for granted. sad smiley

I simply know that if I am told to alter a pref that does not exist, it is a default pref that I must create first. Firefox also has such implicit prefs. Or I am told rubbish, or obsolete things.
So that I must use google or do a Forum search. grinning smiley

I somewhere wrote in a post what I installed to minimise the effect of comptibility checking of addons in FF and KM and to help with addon installing. checkCompatibility 1.3, Mr. Tech Toolkit...



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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: rodocop
Date: November 02, 2014 07:53PM

Just point new user to the naruman's build 74+1 and the topic - there aren't any complexities with installing AdBlock

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Re: Affichage page très long
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 02, 2014 11:57PM

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rodocop
Just point new user to the naruman's build 74+1 and the topic - there aren't any complexities with installing AdBlock

I totally agree - but Russian for You and French for delagui do not work well with 74+1.

Простите, Kamerad.

p.s. we need an unified chome language support IMHO.

The kml menus totally work but not all chrome items.



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