Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: Mala Okeh
Date: January 16, 2014 06:39PM

@kmeleon 74Beta

Thanks for the beta version : a lot of improvements I really appreciate. Up to now only two questions :

* I see that in preferences (F2) - finding websites it is impossible to add search engines : is that the case with everyone?

* Another question : is keyword autosearch supposed to work?

Thx

Mala

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: Dorian
Date: January 16, 2014 07:49PM

You can discuss the beta in the announcement thread




Quote
chinarobin
km74 seems not compatible with win8.1sad smiley. it cannot start as error box says "km failed to initialize. please reinstall." it works fine under win xp3.

it works for me on W8



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/2014 07:50PM by Dorian.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: chinarobin
Date: January 17, 2014 09:05AM

Quote
Dorian
You can discuss the beta in the announcement thread




Quote
chinarobin
km74 seems not compatible with win8.1sad smiley. it cannot start as error box says "km failed to initialize. please reinstall." it works fine under win xp3.

it works for me on W8

thanks for reply.my problem! i finally made it after putting it under a English-name folder, folder named in Chinese lead to that error.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/2014 11:20AM by chinarobin.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: George Hall
Date: January 19, 2014 06:33PM

Firefox Passwords can be imported into K-Meleon 74Beta, 74d, and 74d+1.

To import the Firefox Passwords, You have to copy the twp files from the Firefox Profile into K-Meleon 74Beta, 74d, or 74db+1 Profile.

The names of those two files are:

key3.db
signons.sqlite

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: Hao Jiang
Date: January 22, 2014 04:36AM

Welcome back Dorian!

p.s. I am not using MSN messenger anymore. What's the best way to contact you?

Hao



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2014 05:11AM by Hao Jiang.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: rodocop
Date: January 22, 2014 12:21PM

Hao is back! WoW! Welcome back!


Try K-Meleon-1.6db+NS by dugbug // KM-16-S2014 by Fred // 1.6beta2.6 by JamesD

K-Meleon Twin+ Download for modern browsers =//= Download for old ones =//= Discuss it!!!

New KM74 for test and feedback! Get it there!


Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: Hao Jiang
Date: January 22, 2014 09:12PM

Quote
rodocop
Hao is back! WoW! Welcome back!

I never really left ...

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: January 23, 2014 04:17AM

None of us left with his heart. smiling smiley

p.s. We maybe use other browsers as k-m substitute.
But not as the real browser of choice.

Or better as shell for HTML engines K-m is prime and rules / is the state of the art.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/23/2014 04:20AM by guenter.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: dugbugoffice3
Date: January 26, 2014 11:43AM

I still have the K-Meleon db types!
grinning smiley

It's good to see things rolling!

Keep in mind K-Meleon db types is like a franken car
a V8 in a 1990 Nissan 240sx!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/2014 11:43AM by dugbugoffice3.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: Kevlar
Date: February 01, 2014 01:24AM

Quote
George Hall
K-Meleon 74Beta can not open links in New Tabs, Background Tabs, New Windows, and Background Windows when I right click on a link.

It needs a macro to allow us to Open in New Tab, New Window, Background Tab, and Background Window on right clicking links or frames.

True, and toolbars are a bit unpredictable. All this will be fixed in due course. The true breakthrough is making kmeleon work with new gre builds. Congrats Dorian, and thanks!

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: ttttt11111
Date: March 28, 2014 12:15AM

K-Meleon was my choice for secondary and portable browser for more than five years. I was bitterly disappointed when it was no longer updated after 1.54.

I switched to QtWeb (based on Webkit, now v3.8.5) which is more modern and contains many features in Firefox, chrome, Opera, Safari or ie (e.g. autocomplete URLs). But it's agonizingly slow to load or respond sometimes, and it can't handle java. It's also far more crash-prone than K-Meleon 0.9, never mind 1.54.

I use K-Meleon 1.54 now only as a quick view browser because it's small, loads fast, and I can view sites containing flash, java and other web technologies. It's still quicker and more reliable than most popular bloatware. QtWeb is too limiting and annoying, so if K-Meleon is resurrected and modernized, I'll be ecstatic.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: siria
Date: March 29, 2014 04:25AM

1.54 is really long since outdated, but it was updated years ago already to 1.6 with various beta versions, which produce a lot less display errors. Why do you still stick with the oldest version of all?? Yeah I know the download page still calls it "stable", but due to the stone age engine it has in fact the most bugs these days, not the least.

The last KM1.6 beta version is 2.6, only posted in the forum, the engine may be outdated too but by far not as much as 1.54, and all around it's a pretty stable version for everyday use. Download is here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1522294/K-Meleon1.6.0_Beta2dot6_en-US.7z

And the most recent development version is currently KM74beta3.1, based on the same engine as FF24 or 25, posted just a few days ago by main developer Dorian here
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?8,127127,127340#msg-127340
Sounds like it still has a few bugs, but not many anymore smiling smiley

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: March 30, 2014 12:18AM

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ttttt11111
so if K-Meleon is resurrected and modernized, I'll be ecstatic.

1.6beta2 was stable and IMHO ready for rollout but not continued because desga2 who wanted to finish it ran out of time. There were problems that had nothing to do with the version.

The version 1.6 has a Chinese simplified locale offered in Forum by Chanson Yu.
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?2,120143,120143#msg-120143
Just in case You prefer that to English.

74betaN is also mostly stable already. German, French and Chinese simpliified are almost ready for use.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/30/2014 12:56AM by guenter.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: ttttt11111
Date: April 07, 2014 10:48PM

Quote
guenter
The version 1.6 has a Chinese simplified locale offered in Forum by Chanson Yu.
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?2,120143,120143#msg-120143
Just in case You prefer that to English.

Just because I live in Taiwan doesn't mean I'm from here.

Quote
guenter
74betaN is also mostly stable already. German, French and Chinese simpliified are almost ready for use.

Where is the zipped version? There is no link in the forum or anywhere in the SF file listings.

I don't install browsers. I put them where I want and create my own links, and I especially want them to be portable.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: April 08, 2014 05:05AM

The official development versions by Dorian are in this thread.
But currently the installers are tested.

Unpack the exe with 7z and copy the two main folders into one if You do not want to use the installer.

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?8,127127

Dorian does core - naruman works on chrome and extensions.
You have to follow their posts with updates.
But I am afraid there is a lot of noise in the tread.


A compilation by adodupan is in this thread.

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?2,126206

IMHO also good if you want to use an en-US only version - which i do not want.


A version with core by Dorian and Lua Macros dll is offered by Hao.

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?1,126556



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/08/2014 05:16AM by guenter.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: wow
Date: April 23, 2014 02:38AM

mother of god, guenter is not dead!

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: bellgamin
Date: June 17, 2014 02:56AM

I just found this new Kmel beta at BetaNews Forum. I installed it & am using now, even as I type this post.

EXCELLENT!!! Stable. Really really really fast. I love it.

I posted news of this beta at the Wilders Forum HERE.

I have protected this browser with MBAE, as I do for my 2 other browsers as well (Firefox, Slimboat).

P.S. Where's the button for logging into this forum?

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: June 17, 2014 05:29PM

Quote
bellgamin


P.S. Where's the button for logging into this forum?

Near the end of first column top left. After the line break at Mark
Read. Where mine reads Log Out


Goto: Forum List•Message List•New Topic•Search•Mark 
Read•Log Out•Print View 

Goto Topic: Previous•Next

Greetings to Hawai'i



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/17/2014 05:31PM by guenter.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: bellgamin
Date: June 18, 2014 03:15AM

Quote
guenter
Near the end of first column top left. After the line break at Mark Read. Where mine reads Log Out
Thanks!! I am so very very pleased to see that you are still here. God bless you sir!

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: dark_on_5
Date: July 04, 2014 05:03AM

Just registered to say I still use K-Meleon on my old PC!

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: MXB
Date: July 30, 2014 11:26AM

Still using the older 1.5.4 version. It's the last version that runs on my computer. Mostly I use it to watch YouTube since it takes less memory than Opera and so runs smoother. Lately though YT broke things by putting in a floating search bar at the top which (since it's not positoned/sized correctly) causes a strip at the top of the video to be black. The height of the black strip is the same as the overflow of the floating search bar.

--
P2 400 MHz, 128 MB, Win 98 SE

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: siria
Date: August 04, 2014 05:33AM

Some day you'll have to give in and try kernel-ex too ;)
No black strips here with kernelex and KM1.6beta26 smiling smiley

Until then try if some special css blocks might help, but requires some skills...
or perhaps play the videos finished and then open them from windows temp cache again with a standalone player...
or manually change the adress each time from "youtube.com/watch?v=xy" to "youtube.com/watch/v/xy"

--
700 MHz, 256 MB, Win 98 SE

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: Mikk
Date: August 04, 2014 08:30PM

Quote
siria
Some day you'll have to give in and try kernel-ex too ;)
No black strips here with kernelex and KM1.6beta26 smiling smiley
From my own experience of the last 10 months approx. I can only support this statement of siria. The first time I tried that 1.5 too but have seen the problems very soon. KernelEx works very fine for KM 1.6 and 1.7

My recommendements:
- Try also 1.7 or even Twin (betas both)
- If you can get somewhere cheap or even free RAM modules for your old PC upgrade it as large as possible. I think it must go at least up to 512 MB.

--
Pentium MMX (P55C) 233 MHz, 320 MB, Win 98 SE

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: Mikk
Date: August 05, 2014 02:32PM

Quote
siria
play the videos finished and then open them from windows temp cache again with a standalone player...
As I remember that time I tried to play and save .flv videos (I don't do it today more because I hate Flash - is and was allways malware in my eyes - such I rather refuse to watch all the flash videos) it's necessary to move/copy them away from the temp cache as possible immediately before the playing is finished. Because they will be often automatically deleted there after playing. But if you make it too soon you get possible only an incomplete video file. Some problem is at flash streaming. Than you can find only a small .flv file which is useless alone. This case it's necessary to use a special ripping tool.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/2014 02:41PM by Mikk.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: siria
Date: August 05, 2014 04:35PM

There we have different experiences. I'm using the hexed Flash9 plugin and this works perfectly at least for youtube videos, which I watch nearly exclusively. No need to stop them before the end, always play them out fully. After the end, the cached file-size still shows zero, until I close the video page or kill it's flash objects. Then the full size is available in the cache and yes, then I usually move them out of it too.
Videos on other sites I rarely even try, and only some of them survive in the cache anyway. Although, my impression was always they don't even show up there at all, and if so, stopping in the middle doesn't help a thing?
On the other hand I tried a few other yt "tools" too, but in the long run the hexedplugin way always felt the easiest and most robust, and after awhile those other ways started failing and I also kept forgetting how they work ;-) And I hate using monster scripts from external sites each time, it's just an additional malware risk.
Which tool do you use??

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: Mikk
Date: August 07, 2014 01:24PM

I don't use any one. Always as I looked for solutions it was in final effect such complicated until I had no time more to bring it finished. There are solutions for allmost all these things anyway but unfortunately I must set my priorities on other places as to look for them consequently.

People change still as their webs etc. as things around in the "real" world. Too much of it doesn't work correctly, perheaps better to say directly it works really bad, too much of people making these changes don't (want to) see all the consequences of their doing. Thats why it's very time intensive for me to look that my essential things go on to work, as around the computer as in the other life. Additionally the times I could push many things besides to make them later, as people usually do, are over for me - that »later« is now. Some of that besides moved things solve themselves during the time, indeed but at many of the rest I'm now confrontated with that what we in german say "aufgeschoben ist nicht aufgehoben".sad smiley

The necessarity to handle this on one side good but on the other side also non finished browser doesn't make it easier, too.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 08/07/2014 02:50PM by Mikk.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: Jesper
Date: September 02, 2014 03:12AM

I tried it a little while ago. Later I uninstalled it, and started to use Maxthon instead because I don't liked it. Today, I'm using both Maxthon and K-meleon on my desktop computer.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: i. ri.
Date: September 09, 2014 01:22AM

so how are you doing to answer thread question? how many? enumerate?
is there a location to view current number of 74RC[#] downloads?
how many?

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: guenter
Date: September 09, 2014 04:28AM

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i. ri.
so how are you doing to answer thread question? how many? enumerate?
is there a location to view current number of 74RC[#] downloads?
how many?

This is an older thread started in November 2003. Not all is answered anymore.


Yes.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmeleon/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmeleon/files/stats/timeline

About 5000 this week. 2014-09-02 to 2014-09-08.

Since this thread was started?

About 300.000.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmeleon/files/stats/timeline?dates=2013-11-02+to+2014-09-08

Not all downloaded were development versions or RCs.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2014 04:30AM by guenter.

Re: Anyone still using kmeleon?
Posted by: siria
Date: September 09, 2014 06:02AM

surprised smiley W-H-O-A!! surprised smiley Thanks for the links!
Shock-1: TONS more than I had dared to hope!!
Shock-2: 2/3 of downloads are still KM1.5.4, and even with RC being out last month, can't believe it!!

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