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Keep alive K-Meleon!!!
Posted by: D555
Date: August 15, 2013 07:55AM

After another good browser was frozen and moved to spy core of Big-G... I'd like to share one idea which could save KM and keep it alive... It seems me a ONE real way...
I hope to find people to be involved in that interesting idea!

So, there was one abandoned Mozilla's project -"Chromeless"-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrRYWfJLJuA

It's still alive a bit with support of enthuziast though.-
https://github.com/mozilla/chromeless

And now is exist a workable browser with UI -
http://webian.org/shell/



I really hope that KM could move to that base, because it's the only way I see...

What's in profit-
Multi-platform for any OS,
still the good-old Gecko,
still no XUL



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2013 08:01AM by D555.

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Re: Keep alive K-Meleon!!!
Posted by: bksening
Date: August 16, 2013 06:51AM

If you use Chromeless to build a browser, it would be remaking the browser UI, except using standard Web technologies like HTML, CSS, and JavaScript to do it.

But isn't the Chromeless development environment/toolkit itself an XUL-app that runs on top of XULRunner?

Wouldn't that be two levels of coding interfaces that still uses XUL, whereas KMeleon is supposed to be fast by not using XUL at all, but by calling native Windows GUI elements directly?

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Re: Keep alive K-Meleon!!!
Posted by: D555
Date: August 17, 2013 03:49AM

...it has no any XUL in interface, it uses JetPack.

but I suppose it would be useful optionally to keep XUL libs for compatibility with adopted FF extensions like KM does.

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Re: Keep alive K-Meleon!!!
Posted by: bksening
Date: August 17, 2013 07:38AM

D555, when you ambiguously start your post with "it", it requires us to guess what you're talking about.

I assume you mean: Chromeless has no any XUL in interface, it uses JetPack, which I agree with. That's why I said the browser UI is remade with standard Web technologies like HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.

But D555, I don't think you answered my more important question about where Chromeless comes from:
Isn't the Chromeless development environment/toolkit itself an XUL-app that runs on top of XULRunner?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2013 07:45AM by bksening.

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Re: Keep alive K-Meleon!!!
Posted by: guenter
Date: August 17, 2013 01:57PM

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D555

It's still alive a bit with support of enthuziast though.-
https://github.com/mozilla/chromeless

Look at the timeline.

https://github.com/mozilla/chromeless/releases

That is about the time window when the last chromeless K-Meleons were issued by Hao.

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D555
And now is exist a workable browser with UI -
http://webian.org/shell/



I really hope that KM could move to that base, because it's the only way I see...

This shell download is a 2011 vintage Xul-Runner that does not even have a working URL bar. sad smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2013 02:10PM by guenter.

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