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AirSpirit
Very funny. A seat belt and an airbag won't help you if you're falling from a bridge into the canyon, so why all these silly people install them on the every car? Maybe because they can save your life in other situations? How do you think?
that's a very misleading and bad analogy.. if you wanna do it with cars, an antivirus is telling you this: drink and drive, drive irresonsibly and no matter what happens we will protect you. you will always be safe... which is never the case, an antivirus has nothing to do with airbags or seatbelts, it's exactly like a useless offroader.. soccermums and other wankers drive them only on the tarmac because they get a bigger satisfaction thinking they are safer driving higher vehicles or because they are more sturdy..when in fact they have poor stability and handling and if it rolls over the sheer weight will crush the occupants inside. all the time putting a toll on your resources(wallet-fuel consumption) needlessly. an anitvirus is useless without updating its defintions almost daily..what;s the point, i might aswell clear all programs and leave my os for the antivirus which has to grow every day to give me a false sense of security i don't really need.
no..it's not exactly like software permissions, although the concept is similar
from beyondlogic's site:
However the biggest disadvantage to this scheme is the administrator has no control over drives which do not have a NTFS file system or compatible network file system. Drives such as a 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy, CDROM, DVD, Zip Drive or even some network drives do not have adequate security descriptors and thus cannot be secured. Removing or disabling these drives is one option but doing so greatly effects the productivity that should be gained from a PC Workstation.
Trust-no-exe is a executable file filter. It attaches to the operating system and filters all executable files, be it .exe .com .dll .drv .sys .dpl etc from all drives and all network shares against a list of files or paths, you, the administrator provide as trusted applications. If a prohibited executable (one not in the allow list or one explicitly defined in the deny list) is loaded, a popup box informs the user with an intelligent message that can be customised to your site.
permissions policies have little control over external devices or even local hd which aren't ntfs.. permissions have no control over bat, dll, ocx etc.. they only control binary exe. so yes.. the kind of restrictions offered by trust-no-exe surpasses the polices and are way more effective.. there's no comparison.
i'm not here to debate anti antivirus vs antivirus.. each his own, no need to belittle me or my ideas.. what was i thinking? i was thinking i've been using windows os since win95 without an antivirus and without viruses. that's over 10 years of windows computing without catching a single virus.. excuse me, but i started computing on apple machines so the antivirus concept is a bit strange to me. i'm not smarter than your average joe(the plumber?) so if i can do it without an antivirus surely anybody can and jtiger can.. and it's not really that shocking since the word is getting around now, more and more individuals and institutions are letting go of their antiviruses and opting for better alternatives. i'm not telling you not to use an antivirus, i'm telling the person who has problems with it, i'm offering him/her an alternative path.. an enlightenment if you will in better possibilities, i only wanted to help jtiger get more productivity from their machine... if you have something else to offer, please go ahead and say it but your sarcasm is not needed.
i don't get it.. why every time i say "no to antivirus", someone has to jump in and bite my head.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6431853.stm
http://blog.azib.net/2007/06/anti-antivirus-someone.html