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Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: xps
Date: November 02, 2010 06:59AM

A family member decided to uninstall K-M without my permission :-( ... have I lost the bookmarks for good?

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Re: Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: JamesD
Date: November 02, 2010 07:15PM

Have you checked the recycle bin? Did you have any backups? I use favorites instead of bookmarks, so I am not the best person to supply options for you.

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Re: Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 02, 2010 09:42PM

Keep calm and take Yourself about an hour with nobody disturbing You.

First some technical info to calm You down.

Erase/delete means that the first letter of a folder or file is deleted.

The folder or file is not deleted at this point

So it is very unlikely that You lost the bookmarks.html for good.

Difficulty to find and repair depends how thorough Your family member deleted data and how You had installed K-Meleon.

Check User Data folder. You will find default locations at:
some
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/FAQ#bookmarks

For Vista and Win7 Google firefox profiles default location. K-Meleon is right there only the name is K-Meleon not Firefox naturally.

K-Meleon Profiles can be at the win98 place on other systems too when You chose to have profiles in install directory during setup. E.G for portable use.

All is probably still at the old location. And a freshly installed K-Meleon could find the profile. Else You search for it manually.

If it is deleted already please try to use the recycle bind to unerase/roll back that is mentioned already and is easy to do. Else search the recycle bin.

Erase/delete means that the first letter of a folder or file is deleted. After that Your system does not show it anymore. And it has permission to overwrite and reuse the space. Therefore the needed unerase/undelete procedure should be done soon if not right away to get best chances of success.

So if bookmarks.html is deleted and not in the recycle bin You have the use an undelete/unerase program and step by step remake the first letters of ./APDATA/K-Meleon/Profiles/Random.slt/bookmarks.html

The first the letters the erased folders and then the erased file bookmarls.html.

Free unearse programs exist in the net. Google = "free unerase program"
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=free%20unerase%20program

Random is something like 2ylha7um.slt the bold can be any letter digit combination. The unerase program will offer choices. It might be next to a folder that is not deleted... You do not need to use the right letter - any letter will do. There might be more than one deleted profile to repair. Finally You get to
repair bookmarks.html (in each found profile). That is a html file that can be opened by K-Meleon or copied to the used profile to be used as bookmarks. If You find several (each in one of the possibly several random.slt named profiles folders) bookmarks.html You will have to remember which is Yours.

You see: deleting is hard to achieve. grinning smiley To erase something completely You use special programs that systematically overwrite free spaces. Or You create a file with the same name to make info hard to find... Only a forensic specialist can re-store data at this point smiling smiley

I do not hope Your relative did not delete that thorough. smiling smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2010 11:55PM by guenter.

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Re: Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: siria
Date: November 02, 2010 10:26PM

New KM-profile folders have no slt-ending anymore ;-)

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Re: Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 03, 2010 12:03AM

True, but xps did not mention the K-Meleon version. tongue sticking out smiley
I still use some that have that extension. grinning smiley

Thx 2 siria & Sorry 2 xps, that I used outdated info that is only true for some of my profiles. smiling smiley

So the first profile name created by new versions of K-Meleon e.g. 1.5.4 as normally the extension .default, example: etaqbqbo.default. But You possibly still use the older name convention.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/03/2010 12:04AM by guenter.

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Re: Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: siria
Date: November 03, 2010 02:44AM

Lesson no.1, as all users learn sooner or later:
Always keep a backup copy of your profile folder cool smiley

And make sure you also find it again in case of need, not that like me you think you backed it up just recently, then search like crazy but find only a 1 year old useless copy.... *blush*
(my prob was actually another backup but the lesson is the same, ARGH)

Just hope you may still find it in the recycle bin or perhaps in your user account, or manage to undelete it with guenters tips...
Next time you install it, make sure you choose (again?) the "multi-user" version, then it puts the bookmarks in your user account, not inside the program folder, that greatly enhances the chances that they survive an accidental uninstallation. Or set the bookmark-location in the preferences to any other location you wish, perhaps to your documents or such.

Hey, just found something: clicking Start/Run... and typing "explorer %appdata%" opens the user account directly (on XP at least)

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JamesD
I use favorites instead of bookmarks

Me too, so never had any problems of that kind smiling smiley No uninstaller of any other program is going to delete the IE Favorites folder unnoticed or otherwise, unless the computer admin deletes IE itself or a complete user account. Nor can things be overwritten accidentally, since every favorite has its own file, not all faves inside one big file like "bookmarks" and "Hotlist". So it doesn't matter if K-Meleon or another browser using the IE favorites was installed "portable" (with "bookmarks" inside program folder), or as multi-user version (with "bookmarks" in user appdata folder), the favorites are always safe, they are located elsewhere anyway smiling smiley
Only additional macros necessary for comfortably adding new faves.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/03/2010 03:02AM by siria.

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Re: Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: xps
Date: November 04, 2010 12:41AM

It's KM 1.5.2 and my brother was using my Vista username/password login account so the profile will be mine?

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Re: Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: guenter
Date: November 04, 2010 03:50AM

1.5.2 has the same profile names type as 1.5.4 (which siria pointed me to).


AFAIK Vista has default profile location:

C:\Users\Profile\AppData\Roaming\K-Meleon\Profiles[random.string]\

Source: http://www.holgermetzger.de/pdl.html

Holger Metzger points to Mozilla/firefox and such we are looking for K-Meleon right next to it. smiling smiley

I do not work on Vista so I had to Google for default location of applications such as Firefox. smiling smiley

On Vista most PPL are using the default location.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2010 03:51AM by guenter.

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Re: Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: xps
Date: September 20, 2011 02:30AM

I installed v 1.5.4 and the bookmarks are default. I can't see where to look to see if I still have the 'lost' bookmarks. Any help pls?

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Re: Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: guenter
Date: September 20, 2011 05:03AM

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xps
I can't see where to look to see if I still have the 'lost' bookmarks.

Read the prior posts.

p.s. They point to their previous default locations - unless You brother deleted the data for good.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2011 08:38AM by guenter.

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Re: Uninstalled KM - have I lost bookmarks
Posted by: ndebord
Date: September 20, 2011 09:17PM

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xps
I installed v 1.5.4 and the bookmarks are default. I can't see where to look to see if I still have the 'lost' bookmarks. Any help pls?

IF your brother totally deleted your bookmarks, and you have not used the computer too much or run defrag since that time, then look for this little utility, HandyRecovery.

http://www.handyrecovery.com/

It "may" recover your lost bookmarks.

Then I would suggest you manually backup up your entire profile sub-folder(s) to some other location on your hard drive or a backup drive.

P.S. I have Handy Recovery v 1.0, since then it has become trialware. Here are some alternatives.

http://lifehacker.com/393084/how-to-recover-deleted-files-with-free-software

N



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2011 11:47PM by ndebord.

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