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This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: SoerenB
Date: August 05, 2010 10:25PM

Hi,

it just took me a while -way too long- to find out, that

<a

like in:
<a href=

is a banned word. So no way to post a few lines of harmless html if you don't bother to find out and/or don't know the trick.

Admins, please take this as a formal protest against this single item on the list.

Cheers
SoerenB

is: I'm back, on wine in some (!) linuxes - speaking of addiction ...

was: No more own machines, because of addiction.
Don't know when I'll be back to normal ...

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: desga2
Date: August 06, 2010 04:11AM

It's usual that in php forums you can't post HTML code.
But could exist some rule to avoid banned words in formatted code.

K-Meleon in Spanish

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: siria
Date: August 06, 2010 07:06AM

Every forum is different, but I'm not sure if usually html-code really can't be posted. In another forum I'm in it can very well be posted, it just appears as normal text in a post... It doesn't work as code, but it's not banned, because it doesn't work anyway.
But banning all words that contain anywhere "ugg", like suggestion, is definitely more than strange...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/2010 07:09AM by siria.

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: guenter
Date: August 06, 2010 12:11PM

I am sure You all remember the automated spam floods generated by bots and that they were stopped somehow. Some scripts can only be stopped by banning parts of the code used normally.

One mentioned string was banned by Dorian and is the key to our spam defence.
I know by chance since I asked him.

Lets finish this thread. I asked Soeren by mail whether I can delete it.
Since several used this thread by now. I ask You (all) the same.

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: siria
Date: August 06, 2010 03:02PM

I'd think it better to keep this thread just for information *why* this doesn't work, because "suggest" and "struggle" etc. are very frequent words and posters will need a lot of time and struggling to figure out that *this* one is considered so dangerous here!
And most will just give up instead and think they simply are forbidden to post at all here.

Uhm, and if that "key" word happened to be "ugg", could you please ask him if it would perhaps work to include at least a blank?? Like banning only " ugg" and "ugg ", not as frequent words as "suggest" and "struggle" and...

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: SoerenB
Date: August 06, 2010 05:29PM

Hi,

I just had an idea, not sure if it's any good:

Why not have a Sticky in "General", with a title like:

oBoAoNoNoEoDo oWoOoRoDoSo

(or so, just to convey the idea)

The only content of that should be a screenshot of a list of those b-words a regular human benevolent user might want to use now and then ...

Maybe some bending and warping could be applied to the list before capturing ...

Any comments?

Cheers
SoerenB

is: I'm back, on wine in some (!) linuxes - speaking of addiction ...

was: No more own machines, because of addiction.
Don't know when I'll be back to normal ...

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: guenter
Date: August 07, 2010 01:10AM

siria, i deleted the string "Realugg" which seems related to the error You marked red. It seems that the Phorum software applies this banned string wrongly. It should not use the last 3 letters but the whole string sad smiley

Hope this helps.

If You find other strings that cause trouble You can directly mail me, that is easier smiling smiley


p.s. I will definitely not alter anything - that I know is from Dorian.
That much about "a...". Here also the Phorum software applies a longer string to a part of it. sad smiley


And I am not going to post detailed lists to tutor spammers.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/07/2010 01:19AM by guenter.

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Re: Banned Words in Postings (anti-spam)
Posted by: siria
Date: August 07, 2010 02:26AM

Whoa that's kinda bug*gy... Phorum takes only little parts of banned words and then bans this in other words too?! surprised smiley
Hmm... perhaps there's yet another setting for this behaviour (just hoping...)
At the moment the bad u-g-g words are still banned, perhaps it doesn't work instantly...
Anyway, Thanx Guenter!! And Thanx also to Soeren for figuring this out and insisting :-)

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Re: Banned Words in Postings (anti-spam)
Posted by: SoerenB
Date: August 11, 2010 09:41AM

OK from me for deleting this thread.

Cheers
SoerenB

is: I'm back, on wine in some (!) linuxes - speaking of addiction ...

was: No more own machines, because of addiction.
Don't know when I'll be back to normal ...

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Re: Banned Words in Postings (anti-spam)
Posted by: 4td8s
Date: August 15, 2010 06:34AM

another "banned" word is "d e b u g g e r" (w/out the spaces in that d-word)
why can't I use that word? Even hyperlinks that mention that "D" word get banned as well. sad smiley

needs fixing or improvement.



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Re: Banned Words in Postings (anti-spam)
Posted by: Doon
Date: August 15, 2010 01:14PM

A quick word before thread deletion...

U-G-G words are all still banned:

strug gle
bug gy
debug ger
sug gest (-ion -ed)
jug gle (-ed)
rug ged
jug gernaut
hug ger
mug ger
chug ger
lug ger

The U-G-G string is definitely the culprit (banned by itself and within any word) and needs to be removed from the ban list.

Apart from the string mentioned and removed by Guenter I'd have suspected it was all about banning all forms of "bug ger" (-y -ed), which are considered vulgar.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2010 01:30PM by Doon.

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: siria
Date: August 15, 2010 04:04PM

Quote
guenter
i deleted the string "Realugg" which seems related to the error

I wonder if it has to do with the "real" in it, which is an own word... perhaps that banning automatic somehow thinks this was two words... then again, there's no ban an "real"... And nothing has changed since, so there must be some other word causing this...

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: guenter
Date: August 15, 2010 07:36PM

Not wrong any more, I told You that I deleted it. grinning smiley

proof: mugger

Realugg was part of an URL that had been used in an automated attack.
ugg was never itself part of the ban list.

I think some changes need some time to take effect. sad smiley


p.s. Ich hatte mal einen Teil einer URL vergiftet, als ich merkte, dass ein Skript schneller postete, als ich den Mist entfernen konnte. Manches ändert sich nicht sofort. Mist.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2010 07:53PM by guenter.

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: siria
Date: August 15, 2010 09:26PM

HA!! Jetzt gehts auf einmal, heute morgen gings noch nicht! LOL! grinning smiley
Also hat das Ding eine Verzögerung von etlichen Tagen, ist schon komisch ;-)
Aber Hauptsache es geht jetzt wieder!

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: snuz2
Date: August 16, 2010 12:34PM

test: bugger

yup it's fixed !

nuke the thread !!!



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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: guenter
Date: August 16, 2010 12:46PM

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snuz2
test: bugger

yup it's fixed !

nuke the thread !!!

Do all agree that we dispose this spam tutorial? smiling smiley

p.s. siria the time lag for some actions is annoying.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/16/2010 12:47PM by guenter.

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: SoerenB
Date: August 16, 2010 02:04PM

OK from me.

Cheers
SoerenB

is: I'm back, on wine in some (!) linuxes - speaking of addiction ...

was: No more own machines, because of addiction.
Don't know when I'll be back to normal ...

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: siria
Date: August 16, 2010 02:10PM

9 Tage sind schon gewaltig, aber okay, wenn es jetzt wieder geht, ist der Thread natürlich nicht mehr unbedingt nötig ;-)

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Re: This IS ludicrous: banned word: < followed by a
Posted by: guenter
Date: August 17, 2010 12:13AM

Ja, find ich auch lange, Maul sad smiley

Trotzdem sollten wir den Thread die Tage beseitigen, weil er Spammern Infos und damit Ideen über das Wie geben könnte.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2010 12:13AM by guenter.

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