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I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: ndebord
Date: May 11, 2010 07:24PM

It seems that Scroogle has gotten under the skin of Google, which means no more Scroogle it seems...

http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=google

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2010 10:08PM by ndebord.

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Re: Hasta La Vista Scroogle?I
Posted by: Secret Surfer
Date: May 11, 2010 07:56PM

Any good alternatives to Scroogle?
Fact is that Google has always been a bunch of jerks. mad smiley
Only decent thing they have ever done was to support Ron Paul.
But the reason they did that was thinking that less internet regulation will help
their profits even more.

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Re: Hasta La Vista Scroogle?I
Posted by: ndebord
Date: May 11, 2010 08:34PM

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Secret Surfer
Any good alternatives to Scroogle?
Fact is that Google has always been a bunch of jerks. mad smiley
Only decent thing they have ever done was to support Ron Paul.
But the reason they did that was thinking that less internet regulation will help
their profits even more.

Just the two: Yahoo and Bing? Anyone???

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Re: Hasta La Vista Scroogle?I
Posted by: JamesD
Date: May 12, 2010 12:15AM

I don't search a lot, but Yahoo is my default.

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Re: Hasta La Vista Scroogle?I
Posted by: mhf
Date: May 12, 2010 12:21AM

Some alternatives :

ixquick
clusty
yauba
ecosia (not privacy-oriented but a nice search engine anyway)

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Re: Hasta La Vista Scroogle?I
Posted by: ndebord
Date: May 12, 2010 01:34AM

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mhf
Some alternatives :

ixquick
clusty
yauba
ecosia (not privacy-oriented but a nice search engine anyway)

mhf,

I got you on ixquick, it does seem to be private. Not sure what engines it uses, but seems to be a multi-search engine like Clusty, using Yahoo, Bing, Google, among others.

Ecosia not being privacy-oriented gets left off my list of possible replacements.



Yauba??? How would you load that one up in KM?

I believe there is a need for a privacy-aware search engine in KM to replace Scroogle which (at least for now) has gone bye bye.

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Re: Hasta La Vista Scroogle?I
Posted by: jsnj
Date: May 12, 2010 01:55AM

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ndebord


Yauba??? How would you load that one up in KM?

The search string is visible in the URL bar after performing a search. Just copy and paste(minus the search term) to search engines in preferences. Then add it under the Web Search tab as usual.

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Re: Hasta La Vista Scroogle?I
Posted by: ndebord
Date: May 12, 2010 02:32AM

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jsnj
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ndebord


Yauba??? How would you load that one up in KM?

The search string is visible in the URL bar after performing a search. Just copy and paste(minus the search term) to search engines in preferences. Then add it under the Web Search tab as usual.

jsnj,

Much thanks for the help. I was looking in the wrong place. This one seems like a good keeper. I think I'll put it in that multi-search macro.

http://www.yauba.com/?vid=&q=

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: duffy2009
Date: May 12, 2010 09:40AM

The Scroogle search page still seems to be there. Home page ... not sure. This is what I go to:

http://www.scroogle.org/scraper.html

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: ndebord
Date: May 12, 2010 10:47AM

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duffy2009
The Scroogle search page still seems to be there. Home page ... not sure. This is what I go to:

http://www.scroogle.org/scraper.html

duffy2009,

Tks!

OK, it seems that Scroogle is back. Anybody see a story on what happened anywhere?

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: disrupted
Date: May 12, 2010 12:53PM

they probably found a way around google's new restrictions..if there's a will there's a way

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: panzer
Date: May 12, 2010 02:28PM

No retreat, no surrender, Scroogle boys! grinning smiley

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: mhf
Date: May 12, 2010 06:14PM

Two discussion threads here
and here

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: Secret Dude
Date: May 12, 2010 09:23PM

Best of all the SSL version is back smiling smiley

https://ssl.scroogle.org/

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: panzer
Date: May 13, 2010 02:24PM

SSL Scroogle - what is it's search string?

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: Fred
Date: May 13, 2010 11:15PM

https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?Gw=%s

Copy the link, not the text.
( %s is the keyword ) .


Fred

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: Fred
Date: May 13, 2010 11:19PM

P.S.

Saving the link as a bookmark, and clicking on the
new bookmark will open a search prompt for sslscroogle.

Fred

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: Secret Dude
Date: May 13, 2010 11:23PM

Fred, Panzer or anyone. Do you know if that can be added to this K-Meleon 1.6.0a?
I do not see how to do that. I cannot get those functions to work in it. sad smiley
Assumed they were disabled in the alpha builds.

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: Fred
Date: May 13, 2010 11:52PM

Yes, adding search engines seems not to be
implemented yet in the 1.6 alphas.
But you can add SSLscroogle manually.
Close the browser and open inside the K-Meleon root folder
the file /defaults/pref/I10n.js with Notepad.
Search for the part //WebSearch .
There are two engine2, so Yahoo is not shown
at the Search button.
Give first Wikipedia engine3 in the two
concerned lines, and add SSLscroogle as engine4, as follows :

pref("kmeleon.plugins.macros.search.engine3.name", "Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia");
pref("kmeleon.plugins.macros.search.engine3.url", "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=Search&search=";);
pref("kmeleon.plugins.macros.search.engine4.name", "SSLscroogle");
pref("kmeleon.plugins.macros.search.engine4.url", "https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?Gw=";);

and save the changed file using "Save", not "Save as"
in the menu of Notepad.
This would save the changed file correctly with the ending .js
to its origin.
After restarting the browser, Yahoo and SSLscroogle should
appear on right-clicking the search button.

Fred

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: Fred
Date: May 13, 2010 11:58PM

P.S.

The parts forming an URL have again been
shown as links in the forum.
Put in the correct URL of the link
at the places, where they should be.
It's a nuisance that code can not be
correctly shown anymore, as the
code tags don't work anymore.
I hope you understand how to do it
nevertheless.

Fred

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: jsnj
Date: May 14, 2010 02:33AM

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Fred
P.S.

The parts forming an URL have again been
shown as links in the forum.
Put in the correct URL of the link
at the places, where they should be.
It's a nuisance that code can not be
correctly shown anymore, as the
code tags don't work anymore.
I hope you understand how to do it
nevertheless.

Fred

Make them bold or italicized

https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?Gw=

https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?Gw=

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: siria
Date: May 14, 2010 03:46AM

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Fred
pref("kmeleon.plugins.macros.search.engine3.name", "Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia");
pref("kmeleon.plugins.macros.search.engine3.url", "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=Search&search=");
pref("kmeleon.plugins.macros.search.engine4.name", "SSLscroogle");
pref("kmeleon.plugins.macros.search.engine4.url", "https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?Gw=");

Alternatively this and other prefs can be changed in about:config.
Almost all new or changed settings work without a restart there, not sure if search engines too... Important to know in general is that the "default" settings in "defaults/pref"-folder are only active as long as they are not overwritten by "user-set" profile settings, which are in prefs.js or about:config (which is basically the same). If e.g. there exists already a number 3+4, copied over from another profile, then only the profile settings would be showing.

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: panzer
Date: May 14, 2010 02:19PM

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Fred
https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?Gw=%s

Copy the link, not the text.
( %s is the keyword ) .


Fred

I only get this:

Sorry, but we are unable to provide results from Google.

Most errors are because three or more valid characters must be in the
search box before we pass them along. Languages other than English
require that your browser support the UTF-8 character set. Sometimes
our request to Google does not get through, and you should try again.

Using bookmark works fine.



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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: Fred
Date: May 14, 2010 05:45PM

Note that %s for the keyword is only necessary for a bookmark,
and must be left out for the search button,

The strings in sirias post above are correct.

Fred

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: ndebord
Date: May 14, 2010 07:40PM

Here it is with spaces that you have to close up to make it work.

Scroogle SSL

https: // ssl. scroogle. org/ cgi-bin/ nbbw. cgi? Gw=

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: panzer
Date: May 14, 2010 09:52PM

Thanx. Now works fine.

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: guenter
Date: May 16, 2010 03:15AM

After running foul with German privacy regulations recently (details mentioned in every German new coverage today )

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Google said it will introduce a new option soon that will allow its users encrypt searches on its Web site as an added protection against spying.



p.s. World wide I hope smiling smiley

& added smileys sad smiley & tongue sticking out smiley



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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: ndebord
Date: May 16, 2010 03:20AM

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guenter
After running foul with German privacy regulations recently (details mentioned in every German new coverage today)

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Google said it will introduce a new option soon that will allow its users encrypt searches on its Web site as an added protection against spying. grinning smiley

Guenter,

Yes, but.... bet they still mine data.

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Re: I won't be back? Scroogle?
Posted by: guenter
Date: May 16, 2010 03:25AM

English coverage. They will have to destroy the data.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100515/ap_on_hi_te/eu_tec_germany_google_privacy

Google sounds like it was an accidental, unintended incident/breach.
The much better if a mere accident makes Google change policies. smiling smiley



Google simply forgets that once data are collected they can be used in a way not originally intended - e.g. fall into falls hands.



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