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[i][b]these toolbars are now enabled by default (IIRC they have never been before)...[/b]

If the plugin is chosen during the install process then its toolbar is enabled but not visible. So all the user has to do is go to View-Toolbars to see it. We had a couple posts recently..."Where can I get my toolbar folder". Seems Tools-Bookmark Options-Settings was a bit too abstract for some. Also, they are enabled & visible by default in all the other browsers.[/i]

Yeah, no problem, I can understand that. But if it leads to such problems like I had (for all users with a lot of bookmarks / favorites), it might be better to leave them disabled instead of enabling the risk for a disappearing or crashing browser for all users by a feature that won't be used by all users..

Suggestion: How about using a *macro* under view - toolbars that first enables the desired toolbar and then shows it (if that requires a restart please add a OK-dialog that informs the user)?

[i]Beta 4 disappeared(closed at random) for me today for the 1st time. I had 30+ layers open. Disappeared when I commenced downloading a file. However when I restarted and loaded those 30+ layers and downloaded the same file, all was well, so I haven't been able to reproduce it agin yet.[/i]

I had similar experiences, but K-M did that for over 40 times in three days... Now, after disabling the toolbars I'm still waiting for another one. ;-)[/quote]

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