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[quote=guenter] [quote=bksening] Actually, the crux is: no number of specialized user-agent spoofers, no matter if they change the user-agent or not or remember to reset the user-agent back or not, is even remotely close enough to making any significant difference for the OS usage statistics. @guenter, are you also so seriously deluded to actually think that there are enough Win 9x user-agent spoofers to actually make a statistical difference, enough to make the stats unreliable? Of course [b]not[/b]! Many, many more people do not change their user-agent string at all! My private estimate is that Win2000 and Win2003 are used way way way more than 9x. It seems like (the not that many) KM people are the only ones who still have the old [i]software[/i]. Even most people with old [i]hardware[/i] are using Win2000 or XP. Win 9x machines do not start significantly faster, and the system of choice if you want to just check mail and last forum posts would be WinXP Classic mode or at oldest Win2000. And besides, nothing in your post has provided any details or info that could clarify my question to ndebord. I maintain that the most used Windows OS outside of XP is either Windows 7 or Vista, while ndebord says it is Win98se (or I will even give him all the Win 9x's taken together). There is still no convincing proof other than both of your personal opinions that the stats are unreliable and that somehow, somewhere there are hidden enclaves with droves of users running Win9x.......[/quote] AFAIK No reliable sniffers for OS exists. :D All sniffers are based & rely on JavaScript. And the commands set inside the browsers overrule the questions of the sniffers. [url=http://browserspy.dk/]Test Yourself at Gemal's browser spy pages.[/url] Yes, I am "seriously deluted" but by nothing but statistics. Win2000 is not bared - that is why I think so. In more detail: 9x has significantly outsold Win2000. Both 9x and win2000 users are as likely to continue to use their hardware or pass it on together with the OS. If 0.6% Win2000 systems are still around - the win 9x systems around are more. The difference win2000 is not bared from usage on relevant sites. Users have no reason to camouflage. Users of 9x have no reason that change back once they started spoofing on pages like Yahoo mail. [url=http://www.google.de/search?q=yahoo%20mail%20user%20number]If Yahoo's 9x users start to spoof permanently this might cut out a number of million users.[/url] PPL that own 9x did not buy OS like win2000 or a new XP to use with their old hardware. XP has a minimum hardware required. You and I know to deactivate but does any Dick, Tom and Harry? I maintain my private estimate: 1-3% 9x as active and actively maintained backup systems. :) These systems are still around. But do not make many statistically counted hits. Startup speed. I have ME on a P 500 around still. I am sure ME starts faster than XP on anything up to my 2008 vintage hardware. 9x is a faster start yet. :)[/quote]
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