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[quote=ndebord] [quote=disrupted] i can still access them in outlook express, i don't know if oe supports ssl3 and that's why.. maybe your ports needs to be changed if this helps [img]http://kmeleon.holaservers.com/disrupted/gmail2.jpg[/img][/quote] Disrupted, Nope... it's not ports, in the beginning, you didn't have to have SSL with Google, then you did with SSL2 and now they've moved to SSL3. I won't use Thunderbird, it is just not robust enough (they've never, to my mind, fixed the bugs) and too quirky. The old messenger component in Netscape 4 was better (sorry Charlie). As for Foxmail, I really love version 5, but if I have to move, I need to find a replacement. I actually was going to go to the Simple Mail extension in FF, but I don't much like FF, so that is a non-starter for me. I liked Foxmail for many reasons, one that was enjoyable was its default email format was text, but if you clicked on an icon, it read html in IE; if you right clicked, an option came up to open up html in your default browser, which of course meant KM! I don't know where else I can find that capability. I am increasingly disliking Google for its practices which remind me these days of MicroSoft. SOB[/quote]
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